<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey)</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>I dont believe he will get even half that....I see the Braves stepping up in the neighborhood of 5 years, $60 mil at the most....any GM that goes over that better have a good severence package or work for a Steinbrenner</div></p> Jones is worth as much as Soriano. He has been more consistent outside of this year.</p> -Petey </p></div> um, no. Soriano doesn't walk much, but other than that, he's a superior player across the board. Did you know that Soriano's LOWEST single-season batting average is HIGHER than Andruw's lifetime average? Did you know that Soriano was 40-40 once (last year) and 30-30 three other times? </p> </div></p> In terms of OPS, they are rather close (Jones is higher), Jones is better in the field regardless of how much people think he has regressed.</p> -Petey</p> </p> </p>
OPS isa stupid, made-up stat for people that can't wrap their heads around more than one number at a time. Look! I have ten grapes and two oranges, while you have eight oranges and just one grape. Clearly I'm better off! Idiotic.</p> </p> As I said, Andruw walks more, a skill that is mostly wasted as he hits fifth or sixth. He is a career .260 hitter that is currently hitting .225. His ability to make contact--and as a result, hit singles and doubles--has eroded over the past several years to the point where HRs, strikeouts, and walks comprise by far the majority of his at-bats.</p> He is Jack Clark. With fewer walks.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'> OPS is a stupid, made-up stat for people that can't wrap their heads around more than one number at a time. Look! I have ten grapes and two oranges, while you have eight oranges and just one grape. Clearly I'm better off! Idiotic.</p> </p> As I said, Andruw walks more, a skill that is mostly wasted as he hits fifth or sixth. He is a career .260 hitter that is currently hitting .225. His ability to make contact--and as a result, hit singles and doubles--has eroded over the past several years to the point where HRs, strikeouts, and walks comprise by far the majority of his at-bats.</p> He is Jack Clark. With fewer walks.</p></div> </p> He's 30. Not Barry Bonds. A player of his caliber is much more likely to rebound. His slugging and/or OBP has to be higher, hence the OPS. I don't care if a guy gets a single, or walks. It's not an out.</p> -Petey</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'> OPS is a stupid, made-up stat for people that can't wrap their heads around more than one number at a time. Look! I have ten grapes and two oranges, while you have eight oranges and just one grape. Clearly I'm better off! Idiotic.</p> </p> As I said, Andruw walks more, a skill that is mostly wasted as he hits fifth or sixth. He is a career .260 hitter that is currently hitting .225. His ability to make contact--and as a result, hit singles and doubles--has eroded over the past several years to the point where HRs, strikeouts, and walks comprise by far the majority of his at-bats.</p> He is Jack Clark. With fewer walks.</p></div> </p> He's 30. Not Barry Bonds. A player of his caliber is much more likely to rebound. His slugging and/or OBP has to be higher, hence the OPS. I don't care if a guy gets a single, or walks. It's not an out.</p> -Petey</p></div> "A player of his caliber?" what does that mean? He's a fat piece of shit who has done nothing to improve his game or stay physically fit, and once he hit his late 20s, the inevitable decline started. He was a minor league stud who has been a disappointment for five years. BTW, a single is worth more than a walk. A single can move other baserunners more than one base, and can lead to an error, allowing you (or others) to advance. </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'> OPS is a stupid, made-up stat for people that can't wrap their heads around more than one number at a time. Look! I have ten grapes and two oranges, while you have eight oranges and just one grape. Clearly I'm better off! Idiotic.</p> </p> As I said, Andruw walks more, a skill that is mostly wasted as he hits fifth or sixth. He is a career .260 hitter that is currently hitting .225. His ability to make contact--and as a result, hit singles and doubles--has eroded over the past several years to the point where HRs, strikeouts, and walks comprise by far the majority of his at-bats.</p> He is Jack Clark. With fewer walks.</p></div> </p> He's 30. Not Barry Bonds. A player of his caliber is much more likely to rebound. His slugging and/or OBP has to be higher, hence the OPS. I don't care if a guy gets a single, or walks. It's not an out.</p> -Petey </p></div> "A player of his caliber?" what does that mean? He's a fat piece of shit who has done nothing to improve his game or stay physically fit, and once he hit his late 20s, the inevitable decline started. He was a minor league stud who has been a disappointment for five years. BTW, a single is worth more than a walk. A single can move other baserunners more than one base, and can lead to an error, allowing you (or others) to advance. </p> </div></p> A single is worth more than a walk, but in order for a single to occur the ball has to be put in play. When a play is put in play besides the things that you mentioned that can happen include a double play and the extremely seldom triple play. I think double plays really minimize the the benefits of a single compared to a walk and really doesn't make one more important than the other.</p> -Petey </p>
Um. Petey... Wow. </p> Soriano>Jones.</p> It's not close.</p> At all.</p> IF gold gloves were given on defense, he wouldn't have gotten one for a while.</p> Soriano has better power and speed.</p> Jones has better.. um... flab?</p>
