Are Liverpool a big 4 team?

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  1. RandomButter

    RandomButter DYC Chelsea 4 Life

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    Liverpool are constantly referred to as being one of the Premiership's "Big 4" along with Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd. Do they deserve this tag though? Arsenal, Man Utd and more recently Chelsea have consistently challenged at the top of the Premiership and have won it each at least once.

    Liverpool, despite their history and the money they have spent, have not once even challenged for the title. In fact, the closest they came was in 1996/97 season when they were 5 points clear at Christmas and entering into a two horse race with Man Utd.... A two horse race in which they finished 3rd?????!!

    Yes, they are a top 4 side because thats were they sit at present, but realistically, they are not one of the big 3. Were Everton one of the "Big 4" when they finished 4th a couple of seasons back. No. Why?, because they will never challenge for the Premiership title.... Neither will Liverpool.

    So I'm sorry Liverpool fans, your club needs to do a hell of a lot before you can even be mentioned in the same breath as the Big 3.

    Think of it like this:

    * Take Rooney out of Utd and you've still got Ronaldo, Scholes, Giggs, etc
    * Take Lampard out of Chelsea and you've still got Drogba, Terry, Essien, Shevchenko etc
    * Take Henry out of Arsenal and you've still got Fabregas, Gallas, Rosicky, Gilberto etc
    * Take Gerrard out of Liverpool and you've got Alonso.

    I rest my case, disagree with me? Good, speak your mind!
     
  2. leeroy85

    leeroy85 DYC 1st team Reserves

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    What a absolute idiot ! Why are arsenal in the top 3 big teams when there 4th in the league. Liverpool have won more trophies in the past 3 or so years than Manchester United and Arsenal.

    When you take Gerrard out you have - Caragher, Alonso, Finnan and Kuyt

    Last English team to win all European honours were the mighty Arsenal and co have failed! [​IMG]
     
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    reven DYC Squad Backup player

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    Take Gerrard out my friend and you still have Alonso,Garcia,Kuyt and Bellamy.
    With our recent success and winning more trophies than any other team in the 'Big 4' i think we are part of the 'big 4'. A bigger part of the big 4 than Arsenal.
     
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    RandomButter DYC Chelsea 4 Life

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    <div class="quote_poster">reven Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Take Gerrard out my friend and you still have Alonso,Garcia,Kuyt and Bellamy.
    With our recent success and winning more trophies than any other team in the 'Big 4' i think we are part of the 'big 4'. A bigger part of the big 4 than Arsenal.</div>You would swap all of those Charity Shields, Worthless Cups and Pre-Season Friendly pots for just one Premiership title! [​IMG]
     
  5. C.Ronaldo

    C.Ronaldo Key Squad player

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    Liverpool are a top four club but IMO i think they are the worst in the top four.

    When was the last time they won a trophy without using the pen shootout.
     
  6. Y2Kyle

    Y2Kyle DYC This is Anfield

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    When was the last Man United won a trophy? If so, Liverpool should be considered higher than even Manure if you talk trophy wise. When you drop out Gerrard and talk like that, it does not matter what players we have! As long as we are contenders it dont matter, we could have a team full of confernce players and be a top 4 contender, you dont need big names to be a contender. You can easily talk like that because you have a big transfer budget and buy big names. I think the ones who need to worry are the manc fans, your club is in debt and you have an idiot chairman, if this carries on you will have to seel all your big names, Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand, Vidic, Neville ect. Then where will you be? Take a look at Leeds now, struggling to stay in the championship.
     
  7. Escorcio

    Escorcio DYC Mage

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    <div class="quote_poster">C.Ronaldo Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Liverpool are a top four club but IMO i think they are the worst in the top four.

    When was the last time they won a trophy without using the pen shootout.</div>


    Last season, retard...
     
  8. C.Ronaldo

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    Yep because you beat west ham in normal time didnt you?
     
  9. Y2Kyle

    Y2Kyle DYC This is Anfield

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    Charity Shield, moron.
     
  10. C.Ronaldo

    C.Ronaldo Key Squad player

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    I am on about proper cups. FA Cup, Carling Cup and Champions Leagues.

    Y2Kyle and Escorcio = Numpties
     
  11. Escorcio

    Escorcio DYC Mage

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    <div class="quote_poster">C.Ronaldo Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yep because you beat west ham in normal time didnt you?</div>

    Not penalties though...?
    Get the facts straight before posting
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Escorcio Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Not penalties though...?
    Get the facts straight before posting</div>

    LMAO!! I suggest you get the facts right before posting before you look like a fool. I believe you beat West Ham on pens.

    Search it up if you dont believe me.
     
  13. Y2Kyle

    Y2Kyle DYC This is Anfield

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    <div class="quote_poster">Escorcio Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Not penalties though...?
    Get the facts straight before posting</div>

    We beat them by penalties..[​IMG]

    And what significance does winning a final on penalties mean? We got to the final, Arsenal, Chelski and Manure didnt.
     
  14. Escorcio

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    lool, my mind must be fawked by this half term tiredness
    my bad and my apologies
     
  15. Y2Kyle

    Y2Kyle DYC This is Anfield

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    Liverpool have always beens contenders but our players are never consistant apart from Gerrard. I think next year we will pose a serious thread consdering the trasnfer funds we are supposed to have.
     
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    Yes I believe they still are though they've had bad seasons they won the Champions League 2005 and the FA Cup in 2006 and Rafa has got them into the last 16 of the Champions League, they have been drew with Barcelona last years winners and dont think this will be easy for Barcelona. Yes not doing that well in the league but maybe next year after letting some players go and getting some players in they will be in the Top 3 behind Man United and Chelsea.
     
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    Take Gerrard out and you have Carragher,Alonso,Kewell,Reina,Crouch

    All of which start for there country.Liverpool are a top Four team,and Liverpool will challenge for the title and i guarentee will win it within 3 years as bentiez is one of the best managers around,

    YNWA
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">C.Ronaldo Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Liverpool are a top four club but IMO i think they are the worst in the top four.

    When was the last time they won a trophy without using the pen shootout.</div>

    I agree completely
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Y2Kyle Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Liverpool have always beens contenders but our players are never consistant apart from Gerrard. I think next year we will pose a serious thread consdering the trasnfer funds we are supposed to have.</div>

    I didnt know they were gonna sign up to this forum because of the money they will have and and start making serious threads lol. [​IMG]
     
  20. Y2Kyle

    Y2Kyle DYC This is Anfield

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    I mean threats [​IMG]
     

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