Every league is different, so I think it would be good to get some opinions from everyone. It's obvious that kcgsc had one of the best teams in the league, but if our league was a over-all point league then the red herrings would have the crown. This would also have made Murphy's Lawmen 3rd place. I'm not trying to make conspiracy or anything. I just want to know what everybody else thinks. GOGO
It's all about luck vs. skill. If you go on head-to-head, it's about 50-50. If you go with total points, it's about 90-10. I say was do a head-to-head league and have the total points factored out at the end. That way there are two champions. Just remember, the total point champ deserves the more props simply because the head-to-head champ was just luckier.
I disagree. I think that there are two approaches to building a fantasy football team. My Admirals weren't the most explosive team in the league, but they were consistant and finished as the 2nd seed. Is a team that blows up for a 125 points one week and scores 45 the next, better than a team that scores 80 and 80. A couple of years ago, I had Peyton Manning and Jeff Garcia on the same team. Manning was more explosive, but Garcia was more consistant. That required some thinking each week as to who I should play. I think we should have both types of leagues, but I think it would be incorrect to say that one type of league is better than the other. Just my opinion. I wish there were an option to vote for both.
It's not better, it's more luck. You can't factor into a head-to-head league that I might score 110 points one week but that week I play KC and he has 111. And you score 80 points but play Westminster who scores 55. Who has the better team? You at 1-0 or me at 0-1 but scored 110 points? Head-to-head leagues punish bad schedule luck. You can slice it anyway you want Dale, but it is what it is.
I didn't say that head-to-head was a better game, but it is a game that requires more than luck. Does luck play a factor? Sure, but name a game that doesn't. In fact, bad schedule luck makes the game more similar to the NFL. I like head to head because I think it makes each week more exciting. Having games against one another each week makes it seem more like football to me. Having said all that, I wouldn't mind being in leagues that play both ways. It all sounds like fun. I think the only thing we truly disagree on, SF, is that I would view both Champions as being equally significant.
Sounds like sour grapes to me Steelerfan. btw, where would you have finished in a points league? Pair my point placement (I think I came in 2nd in points) with the fact that I skillfully chose the right starters to get through the playoffs and I think my Cougar team performed very well.
The only problem with a total point league is a few teams tend to pull away and it ends the drama early...this is the 1st year i was in a head to head league and I liked the way it was structured, I enjoyed gunnng for a playoff berth all the way to the end, it is a little silly that a team could dominate the league all year and then have a bad week in the playoffs and finish no better than 5th, i like the idea of recognizing both the overall regular season pt winner and the playoff champions, just like college football, 2 titles
id love to get in next year, oh and SF if you are looking for game that requires no luck i am an excellent chess player
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2003)</div><div class='quotemain'>It's all about luck vs. skill. If you go on head-to-head, it's about 50-50. If you go with total points, it's about 90-10. I say was do a head-to-head league and have the total points factored out at the end. That way there are two champions. Just remember, the total point champ deserves the more props simply because the head-to-head champ was just luckier.</div> What I was saying before was that Head-to-head leagues are 50% luck / 50% skill and total points leagues are 10% luck / 90 % skill. Maybe 20/80 but much more skill in total points. As for KC, there's no sour grapes, you were a legitimate champion. I'm just saying we should have two champions. Maybe the high point scorer will be the head-to-head champion next year. And to be honest, I'm not sure where I finished in points Dale. I can't look it up because I'm at work, but I think it was somewhere in the top half. Maybe 6th or 7th. I'm not really sure what the significance of that question because I'm not saying that KC wasn't the man, I just think that if you eliminate schedule luck, you eliminate the possibility of someone being 5th or 6th in points being a champion. With that said, I think a dual league is the way to go.
IMO next year we should all join the same league like this year, and do overall points. there is so many people that threres parity and it would make more sense for overall league.
i think overall points is more skill based then week to week, however, i do think in head to head, substitutioons come in to play a lot more several times beef told me if he had substituted a player for another he would have done better, where as in overall a few points can be made up for by one big week
One more thing... I think head-to-head is more fun and does involve slightly more week to week maintenence, but total points is more weighted by your draft and free agency activeness. I'm fine with what the majority want to do.
I vote for both. One head-to-head league. One total points league. I wouldn't mind kicking your butt twice next fall, SF.
Can't you read my signature DD? It says DON'T MESS WITH ME! Don't count your chicken's with a statement of pre-butt kicking... you might not be so fortunate!
I've read your signature and it's proof positive that this year's football and fantasy football seasons have caused you to become delusional. If my team had finished behind the Cincinnati Bengals, I'm sure I would have lost my mind too. C'mon and admit it, SF, you want a total points league because you do want any part of me head-to-head.
Aw shucks Steelerfan. Were just harpin' on you. My vote is for 2 separate leagues next year. One of each kind. We may have so many takers that we will need 2 head-to-head leagues. If so, does anyone have any thoughts as to how to divide the two.? Do we keep last years league together and create a new one for overflow people? AFC fans vs. NFC fans? People who finished better than Steelerfan vs. people who obviosly know nothing about fantasy football? lol.
I say we run the league the same way but at the end, we take the head to head champ and the overall point champ and have them go head to head for the overall title
