<div class="quote_poster">soilborn Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">OH NO! Some faceless, white, middle-class kids died in America. Forget the 170 innocent people that died in the biggest single car bombing Iraq has seen since the "liberation". Or the people Robert Mugabe is killing in Zimbabwe while the likes of Bush and Blair turn a blind eye because there are no plunderable natural resources in the country worth another illegal invasion. I actually applaud this kid for taking a stand, just not the way he done so. The hypocrisy, greed and snobbery in middle America, and in turn Britain, is sickening.</div> mmhmm, i agree with you there, but still... anyway, because of of the english/american thing, our news would be based upon things in the west. While i was in Kenya there was alot of african new which i would never have heard about in England
<div class="quote_poster">incandecio Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">i mean canada have more guns than america and you dont see masacres in canada now do you</div> Canada do not have more guns then the United States.
<div class="quote_poster">Oranje Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Probably never, americans love their freedoms to pretty much anything, including killing 32 students with over-the-counter weapons. Surely something has to be done and apparently virginia has really lax laws on gun ownership.</div> Reading this Thread I feel a little insulted. Some people are mis-informed and judge without knowing the facts. Gun control is shit in the US I agree, but who is to put our mental sanity in question? Killings happen everyday all over the world, some humans are unstable period. Americans do love freedom it is true, but the freedom this country provides is what makes it the greatest to live in (my opinion). Of course freedom comes with repercussions, but who gives anyone the right to judge? Guns dont kill people, people kill people. It is silly to compare the US with the UK or Canada because the UK and Canada are not half the size of the US so it would be dumb to do that. Dont get me wrong people, im not trying to justify Americans for our absurd gun control I just think people should stop pointing fingers and judging and respectfully give us time to mourn, things will obviously change drastically here after these events but this is not the time to focus on that.
It just makes on sense as to how Americans can justify having firearms in their homes like they do, when the rest of the developed world realised it was a bad idea to have guns alomost-freely available like that. The pro-gun lobby in America is the one that is really infuriating me. They're saying "well this wouldn't have happened if everyone carried a gun". How is that any better?
It's hard to just get guns off the streets when Citizens have been used to such a freedom for centuries. There are towns in the south where everyone casually walks around with a weapon. To their minds its for protection from the bad guys, some think shootings like this one would be prevented if enough people would be armed to defend themselves, I dont agree with them but I think that at this point we have thousands of guns in the streets in the US, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get the guns out now. It wouls be too hard and people would feel robbed of their freedom. Might sound easy but it's really not.
<div class="quote_poster">incandecio Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">not saying its america itself but i dont ever remember this type of thing happening in england</div> It hasn't. If i remember correctly someone got seriously injured in an incident but never to that extent R.I.P to all those that died
the worst shootings in one month was 3 in england. (feb this year, im not sure if it actually IS the worst)
<div class="quote_poster">lilguy1991 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Canada do not have more guns then the United States.</div> canada have more guns per quota that america. also things wont change because this isnt the first time some guy cant keep his head and went shooting up a school. its not gonna be easy to get guns away from everywhere, but if guns werent so easy to get hold of then there would be less shootings instead of the clowns who think more guns would reduce it. anyway theres more pressing matters like someone said, the 170 in one bomb, this seems to be happening too often and although one fuckhead who cant handle life and kills plenty of others is tragic its minor compared to what america has caused in iraq
Just because Canada has more guns per quota does not mean we have more guns then America. America has a much higher population then us and I am telling you it's a fact that United States has more guns then Canada.
<div class="quote_poster">lilguy1991 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Just because Canada has more guns per quota does not mean we have more guns then America. America has a much higher population then us and I am telling you it's a fact that United States has more guns then Canada.</div> yes but what he means is just Say in Canada every 1.7(just a guess) has a gun and in america every 3.2 people have a gun then Canada have a bigger ratio of gun users. Amereica must have 1.5 times your population so America has the most but Canada has the most per person
The video shown on the news is just fucking sick... why would they want to show that 3 days after the massacre ... heartless bastards..