Who will make it at the Arsenal?

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  1. neo

    neo DYC Squad Backup player

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    Senderos, Baptista, Hleb, Ljungberg (and to some extent Eboue, Lehmann and Adebayor) have taken a lot of stick from Arsenal fans this season.

    Which of those players are more likely to turn their careers around and become superstars (again for Lehmann & Ljungberg) for the Arsenal?

    I believe that Senderos could be a great player. As 3rd/4th choice CB behind Toure, Gallas and maybe Djourou I see no reason why we should sell him. He played really well in the 2006 world cup and just needs to build his confidence again (maybe in the Carling Cup).

    I also see similarities between Eboue and Ashley Cole when he started out. Excellent going forward but needs to work on his defensive play. Eboue can become a good player he just needs to cut out the diving and moaning.

    Ljungberg and Lehmann are not going to get any better IMO. They are past their peak and I believe that next season could be the last one for both players (assuming Ljungberg stays on).

    I believe that Adebayor will become even stronger as he gets older, less like Kanu and more like Drogba. It took Drogba a couple of seasons to adapt and maybe the same could happen for Adebayor. The presence of Shevchenko provided Drogba with more space, maybe Henry can do the same for Adebayor?

    Hleb is a talented player but he just has this 'lazy' look about him. He is wasteful both in his passing and especially in front of goal. I don't like him as a player, he doesn't seem committed enough. However I had similar thoughts about Pires when he joined us and he proved me wrong.

    Finally there is Baptista. His goalscoring record in spain was excellent and his performances in the mickey mouse cup were encouraging. Unfortunately every time he had a good performance he found himself either injured or dropped to the bench for the next game. He should have been given a run in the team after the Liverpool game IMO. I think we should give him another season, if we could get him on another loan deal.
     
  2. reven

    reven DYC Squad Backup player

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    Hleb has talent and needs to apply himself

    Baptista is off

    Senderos is crap but has time ahead of him

    Ljungberg and Lehmann are both past it and old.

    Eboue needs to cut out the diving and work on his defending.
     
  3. Solsec

    Solsec DYC Youth Team

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    The problem with Baptisa, as he rightly said, is that in Spain he was allowed time on the ball. He could aim and take his shot without to much hassel, something he has not got time to do in england. Also, at Arsenal he is being played out of position, Sir Wenger said "He is playing for the team, not for himself" or something along those lines. That is why i belive his game is suffering. I dont doubt Baptistas ability, i think he has alot to offer, but im still unsure if Arsenal is the place he needs to be. Maybe another loan spell or a smaller transfer fee than that offered would be a good deal.

    I have never critisised Eboue. I highly rate the man and i cant wait to see him in action next year. He does have a temperment problem, and he does dive on the occasion, but he is young and Wenger will look to irradicate that.

    Freddi and Jens...thats a tough one. I belive Freddi will improve next season for one final go. He has shown moments of his greatness this year but as with all our players, injurys have taken their tole on him. Jens on the other hand looks nervous, and that is making me worried.

    Adebayour i dont think will become a 20+ season striker. He plays to deep generally and is more of a target man than a out and out goalscorer. He proves hard to play againast for the opposition defenders, and def worth keeping as he is our plan B. With United and Real apprently interested, it would be good to tie him down, but he will never be a full first team player.
     
  4. United4ever

    United4ever DYC Manchester United's son

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    I think Baptista will go back to Real. He said he didn't like England and he wants to play football with lots of spaces.

    I don't rate Adebayor. Drogba is physically stronger and he can hit a wicked free-kick plus he has quality in him. I think Adebayor is a clumsy striker who miss chances.

    Hleb is fast and he has skills but I don't think he is good enough. I think he is just not suited to the physical English game. I think Walcott will replace him in the bench next season

    Lehmann and Freddie are already in their past. Lehmann is a nutcase and Freddie is injury proned. So I don't think both of them will improve.

    I also don't rate Senderos. I think he makes a lot of errors and mistakes and I just think hes not a good enough defender.

    But I think Eboue will be a top-class full back in yrs to come. I think he is pretty gd at his tackling and tracking back and he is very attacking minded who could put in a wicked cross.
     
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    Hleb- one of EPL best wingers IMO and has already cemented his place in the team.

    Adebayor- Excellent and Exciting young talent. Usually would be a sub behind Henry and Van Persie but injury has led him into the first team[​IMG] Don't forget he has playing as a lone striker pretty much all season[​IMG]

    Baptista- Going back to Real Madrid and seeing as Cry baby Reyes doesn't wanna come back we'll probably sell him for around £12mill

    Senderos- Good strong CB especially as a sub behind Toure and Gallas.

    Ljungberg- He'll Probably leave which i don't want to happen but if he wants first team he might have to go. Unlike Reyes i wish him the best at his new club if he goes[​IMG]

    Eboue- Moans and dives a bit but still an Excellent RB and one of the best in the EPL IMO

    Lehmann- Sketchy when he first arrived but after World Cup 2006 he has asserted himself as one of the worlds best IMO
     
  6. echo369

    echo369 DYC Squad rotation player

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    hleb - hes a gun and a great midfielder.. and he has a cool name

    adebayor - hes a really good striker.. hes done well for us this season and i reckon he'll be even better next season

    baptista - julio baptista is pretty gunnish but will most likely leave us..

    senderos- hes a pretty damn good defender.. i reckon he could even start next season over gallas maybe.. depends

    ljungberg - hes an awesome player.. did a good job for us this season.. i hope he stays.. if he does he should get more game time..

    eboue - is a really good defensive and attacking.. he scored a few goals for us this season.. one of them wasnt just the odd right place at the right time thing, he actually knew what he was doing..

    lehmann - IMO is one of the greatest goalkeepers in the game.. hes also fun to watch coz hes a rough player lol.. gets a yellow card nealry every game but its all fun..
     
  7. United4ever

    United4ever DYC Manchester United's son

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    Lehmann, one of the greatest goalkeepers in the game? are u nuts!?wait a min, hes nuts!he will never be the greatest goalkeepers in the game.
     
  8. mattyboy6

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    I'd like to see Baptista in the prem for atleast another season just to see if he finds his feet, as he has not been played enough nor consistantly to say whether he is up to the standards of English football.

    Eboue is a good player, he just needs to stop diving and moaning.

    Lehmann is a good keeper but he's well past his peak and wont get any better, he'll never be the best keeper in the game. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  9. Hudge

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    He was the best keeper according to MOTD's stats.
     
  10. #1RedDevil

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    Baptista - couldnt handel the english prem
    Lehmann - crazy
    Adebayor - can't finish of chances
    Eboue - diver
    Ljungberg - use to be a amazin goal scoring mid feilder (espencially against man u *grr* lol)
    Senderos - got bullied by drogba on more than one occasion
     
  11. Lennon 18

    Lennon 18 DYC Key Squad player

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    <div class="quote_poster">reven Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Hleb has talent and needs to apply himself

    Baptista is off

    Senderos is crap but has time ahead of him

    Ljungberg and Lehmann are both past it and old.

    Eboue needs to cut out the diving and work on his defending.</div>

    The only thing I find wrong about what you said Reven is Senderos is crap, I think he is pretty decent maybe could use him as a sub.
     

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