ok here my predictions Eli: 17 TD's 16INTS. I am a giants fan. I see the giants going for a more run 30 times a game type of game this year. I think that Odonnell ill sign an play the first 2 and probably manning will be hurt for one or two. Ben: 8 TD's Int 8 plays 6 games. I see him taking over at around week eleven at a 5-6 record They finish 9-7 Rivers: 12 TD's 16 Ints. they have no Wr and what if LT is out for a game or two. Who is he goi n o throw it to. Losman: 4Td 2 INTS. I think the Bills are a stubborn organization. They have always been bad with QB's. Flutie/Johnson. Keepin Jim Kelly To Long. I think the bills will finish 6-10.They'll put him in the last 2 games of they year to get him so expeience.
Eli will take a few seasons to develop, but if the Giants can get him a big name receiver, he could be scary like Manning to Harrison has been. Roethlisberger will be forced into action, but not until 2005. I'll be surprised if he takes one snap from center this season. Cowher has never been the type of Coach to push a rookie. Rivers could spend this season not only running for his life, but throwing twice as many INT's as TD's... Losman won't play much either. He will ride the pine "learning" from Bledsoe....
If I'm Losman I'd concentrate on learning from the many mistakes he will make by holding on to the ball to long.
i think losman will benfit from sitting on bench, as for Eli needing a "big name" reciever he does have toomer, shockey, and barber who are all excellent recievers
Agreed, but Toomer and Barber are on the down sides of their careers. By the time Manning is hitting full stride, they will no longer be on the team. He needs to grow with a young kid like Carr & A. Johnson are together.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>If I'm Losman I'd concentrate on learning from the many mistakes he will make by holding on to the ball to long.</div> The thing is, that was one was Bledsoe's problems last season, too. Of course, neither one is as bad as Rob Johnson.
That was Bledsoe's problem last year. They really need to improve their O-line a little bit and get a good replacement for Price. Reed just didn't cut the mustard. As for Losman, he still needs to learn to be patient, but not too patient. Throw the ball away when you get in trouble. You can't score on every play.
I think were are leaving out the rookie passer who is likley to have the most success early...thats Drew Henson....hes has the most help around him and the best coach of all the other rookie passers and Im convinced that he will win the job during camp...one thing abou Parcells, he will give that job to the guy that earns it, even if its a rook...
Yes, that's true, but I'm not so sure Henson will be anything more than what Quincy Carter has turned out to be. I'm not sold on Henson's talent. We know nothing about him since he's been out of football for the past few years.
You are right Beef. It doesn't matter to Parcells what you've done on the field before...just what you do on HIS field. Seasoned vet, first round talent or free-agent rookie...you have to earn it. And I have no CLUE as to what we are going to see with Henson in training camp. But I will have my Dallas boys watching for me and giving me updates.
I think Henson has a slight advantage because hes been a professional athlete for a few years now, although not a football player....
I wonder if Parcells will go after Collins. His agent said that the Cowboys inquired about Kerry after the Giants released him. He could really help bolster Dallas now vs. later.... Maybe that will buy Henson some time to develop.
Remember a QB is only as good as his O-line and talent around him. People forget that Peyton Manning had Marshal Faulk and Marvin Harrison on the team when he was a rookie.
If I was a coach of any of these teams with the high draft picks at QB, I would not play them until at the least half way through the season. Look at the these examples McNabb - Did not start till like game 10 Culpepper - Did not start till year 2 Pennington - Did not start till year 3 look at these examples Ryan Leaf - started right away Akili Smith - started right away I think now a days too much is expected too soon. A perfect example of this is Drew Brees. I think he could be a very good QB, he just needs time. I just hope that coaches chill back and wait. But in the day os the salary cap, if you pay the player that much money, you pretty much expect him to play. And that is to the detriment of the player IMO.
Payton Manning - started right away John Elway - started right away Drew Bledsoe - started right away Troy Aikman - started right away the point being for every QB you name that waited and succeeded, there is another that played immediately and had success....and for every QB you name that played and failed, there is one that waited and failed....it should be viewed on a case by case basis....some guys are ready and some guys are not...Peyton could handle it, Leaf could not....can Eli handle it? I would guess he can, after all he is a Manning....Rivers played so much at NCState, I think he can handle it....Roethlisberger and Losman came from smaller schools, so I think they should sit....Henson has been a pro athlete for a few years now, hes played at Yankee Stadium, I think he can handle it right away as well...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>Payton Manning - started right away John Elway - started right away Drew Bledsoe - started right away Troy Aikman - started right away the point being for every QB you name that waited and succeeded, there is another that played immediately and had success....and for every QB you name that played and failed, there is one that waited and failed....it should be viewed on a case by case basis....some guys are ready and some guys are not...Peyton could handle it, Leaf could not....can Eli handle it? I would guess he can, after all he is a Manning....Rivers played so much at NCState, I think he can handle it....Roethlisberger and Losman came from smaller schools, so I think they should sit....Henson has been a pro athlete for a few years now, hes played at Yankee Stadium, I think he can handle it right away as well...</div> I wasnt around then, but didnt John Elway get benched like 100 times in his rookie year. I agree with you beef, but on the otherside there is IMO more chance for success if you let the guy carry a clip-board for a year or so. I wonder, what would have happend had eagles drafted Akili Smith. Was he a bust cause of coaching in Cincinnati, or can he just not play. Same for Couch. I think good coaches wait to make sure the players are ready. Leaf was NOT ready, and they completely ruined his career by making him play. I bet you had he taken the same route Pennington did, he would have been a much better QB in the end. Thats why you see all these 6th round or underfted QB's succeding. The pressure is not there on them, so they get a chance to sit back and learn and then if they succeed it's not expected.
I certainly think coaching has a lot to do with the maturation and the success of a QB. Not all QB's can make the transition from college to the NFL, but a good QB coach can make all the difference if the player is patient and coachable.
Well, the players mentioned struggled in their first seasons. Especially Aikman. Sometimes it depends on how much patience a coach has.
