The Most Underrated Player Award Goes to......

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  1. LaBballFan

    LaBballFan JBB JustBBall Member

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    Gilbert Arenas
    He is so damn great,he has great stats and his moves are awesome.
    He won Rookie MVP award but he is still underrated.
    Mike Bibby and Andre Miller are both considered one of the best PG's in the NBA but Gilbert is better than them

    Here is head to head comparasion

    Gilbert Arenas

    PPG 17.8
    RPG 5.0
    APG 6.4
    SPG 1.59
    BPG .23
    FG% .438
    FT% .784
    3P% .343
    MPG 34.5

    Mike Bibby

    PPG 16.3
    RPG 2.9
    APG 5.4
    SPG 1.19
    BPG .14
    FG% .458
    FT% .809
    3P% .406
    MPG 34.6

    Andre Miller

    PPG 14.3
    RPG 3.9
    APG 7.0
    SPG 1.27
    BPG .14
    FG% .407
    FT% .805
    3P% .212
    MPG 37.7


    Gilbert is better in almost every stat category and his game looks nice,he can dunk,he has great moves and he is younger than both of them

    Gilbert is only 21,Bibby is 25 and Miller is 26.

    Gilbert is taller than both of them,he is stronger,he can play PG and SG.
    He is younger and his dunks are very good.
    Arenas is better than them and they are getting a lot more attention.


    Another underrated Warrior is Troy Murphy.
    He could also get most improved player award becuase his numbers are very good and his defense is great.


    Here are 2 opponents


    Ricky Davis

    2001/2002 season

    PPG 11.7
    RPG 3.00
    APG 2.2
    SPG .84
    BPG 28

    2002/2003 season

    PPG 20.8
    RPG 4.70
    APG 4.9
    SPG 1.65
    BPG .36


    Matt Harpring

    2001/2002 season

    PPG 11.8
    RPG 7.10
    APG 1.3
    SPG .86
    BPG .06

    2002/2003 season

    PPG 17.8
    RPG 6.80
    APG 1.7
    SPG 1.09
    BPG .26


    They are good but Troy improved big time also

    Troy Murphy

    2001/2002 season

    PPG 5.6
    RPG 3.60
    APG .8
    SPG .44
    BPG .26


    2002/2003 season

    PPG 11.9
    RPG 11.3
    APG 1.3
    SPG .90
    BPG .34


    If GSW can keep Arenas they are gonna be awesome.
    With young players,last season rookies Arenas,J Rich and Murphy they have great future,with good rookie they could rule the NBA.
     
  2. mike18946

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    Dre miller is rubbish now...arenas is good but the most underrated player overall is shawn marion or elton brand.
     
  3. LaBballFan

    LaBballFan JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post">Dre miller is rubbish now...arenas is good but the most underrated player overall is shawn marion or elton brand.</div>

    Marion was very underrated last season but he's an all star now.
    Elton Brandis very underrated,I agree with that one.
    Cutino Mobley is also underrated
     
  4. jjdaman20

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    Shawn Marion is underrated, he's done so much on offense and defense. he can shoot 3's like crazy too
     
  5. LaBballFan

    LaBballFan JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "pchotsauce":</div><div class="quote_post">Shawn Marion is underrated, he's done so much on offense and defense. he can shoot 3's like crazy too</div>

    He isn't so underraed in my opinion.
    He is one of the best 15 players in the whole league and people are talking about him all the time.
    He is one of the best SF's in the whole league


    Gilbert Arenas has better stats than Andre Miller,Mike "mini me" Bibby and nobody is ever talking about him.

    The Matrix is an all starand everybody knowes about him.
    when you meet someone who knows something about bball he will know about Shawn Marion,Andre Miller and Mike Bibby but he won't know anything about Arenas

    Arenas is maybe one of the best 7 PG's in the whole league

    2002-03 Regular Season Efficiency Rating

    Efficiency Formula: ((PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) - ((FGA - FGM) + (FTA - FTM) + TO)) / G

    http://www.nba.com/statistics/default_regu...rsEFFQuery.html

    Arenas is 29th

    Better PG's are

    1 Jason Kidd
    2 Gary Payton
    3 Steve Francis
    4 Stephan Marbuary
    5 Sam Casell
    6 Steve Nash


    Arenas is younger than all of them and he will have great carrer if he can keep playing like this
     
  6. jbbFranchise

    jbbFranchise JBB JustBBall Member

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    The most underated player is Richard Hamilton, he does a lot for his team, quietly, not many people talk about him, but he gets 20+ pts a game. Your saying that Shawn Marion is underated? The guy is an All-Star...
     
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    Gilbert Arenas is not better than Mike Bibby, maybe stat wise, but who would you want taking that shot in the clutch? Experience makes Mike Bibby better.
     
  8. LaBballFan

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "thefranchise3":</div><div class="quote_post">Gilbert Arenas is not better than Mike Bibby, maybe stat wise, but who would you want taking that shot in the clutch? Experience makes Mike Bibby better.</div>

    That's why Bibby is overrated.

    I have to admit that he played great vs the Lakers,he was clutch in game 5,he had great stats against the Lakers.
    Every time he had the ball in his hands I was very afraid.

    He was great against the Lakers but is he so good now?


    No he isn't

    I won't be dumb Arenas fan and I won't use Vlade and Webber excuse like all of you use Shaq excuse but Bibby is one of the most overrated players in the whole league.

    Arenas is better in every stat category and he is younger,his game style looks so mcuh better,he can dunk and I would pick him over Bibby any time
     
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    Mike Bibby is overratted, he has an all star team to pass the ball to, theres no reason why he shouldnt average 12 apg.
     
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    show his head to head against the top tier pgs.

    glove,
    kidd,
    franchise,
    AI (come on...i know they "say" hes a 2, but really....)
    marbury
     
  11. LaBballFan

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "lost_elephant":</div><div class="quote_post">show his head to head against the top tier pgs.

    glove,
    kidd,
    franchise,
    AI (come on...i know they "say" hes a 2, but really....)
    marbury</div>

    Ok

    Here it is

    Gilbert Arenas
    Golden State Warriors
    Position: G
    Height: 6-3 Weight: 191

    PPG 18.0
    RPG 5.0
    APG 6.2
    SPG 1.79
    BPG .23
    FG% .439
    FT% .787
    3P% .350
    MPG 34.6

    Gary Payton
    2002-03 Statistics
    Milwaukee Bucks
    Position: G
    Height: 6-4 Weight: 180
    College: Oregon State '90


    2002-03 Statistics
    PPG 20.9
    RPG 4.6
    APG 8.7
    SPG 1.69
    BPG .26
    FG% .449
    FT% .692
    3P% .312
    MPG 40.6



    Jason Kidd
    New Jersey Nets
    Position: G
    Height: 6-4 Weight: 212
    College: California '96


    2002-03 Statistics
    PPG 19.3
    RPG 6.0
    APG 8.5
    SPG 2.21
    BPG .31
    FG% .418
    FT% .839
    3P% .341
    MPG 36.6


    Steve Francis
    Houston Rockets
    Position: G
    Height: 6-3 Weight: 195
    College: Maryland '99


    2002-03 Statistics
    PPG 22.1
    RPG 6.0
    APG 6.0
    SPG 1.69
    BPG .48
    FG% .435
    FT% .802
    3P% .374
    MPG 41.6



    Stephon Marbury
    Phoenix Suns
    Position: G
    Height: 6-2 Weight: 205
    College: Georgia Tech '96


    2002-03 Statistics
    PPG 23.4
    RPG 3.2
    APG 8.3
    SPG 1.32
    BPG .27
    FG% .443
    FT% .789
    3P% .316
    MPG 40.5


    They are all better than Arenas but he is much younger than all of them.

    He is 15 years younger than Gary Payton,10 years younger than Kidd,6 years younger than Francis and 7 years younger than Steph


    he is great all around player.

    he can dunk like Steve Francis,he can pas like Kidd,he got handles like Steph and he has the ability to be great leader like Gary Payton.

    In my opinion he is 8th best PG in the whole league

    1 Kidd - Payton
    3 Francis
    4 Baron Davis
    5 Stephon Marbury
    6 Steve Nash
    7 Sam Caseel
    8 Gilbert Arenas


    In 3 years he will be an all star.......trust me on that one
     
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    Wheres Alvin Williams???
     
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    Most underrated playa has got to be Jamal Mashburn, i love his game and his stats are awesome, but he never gets no love from anybody.
     
  14. LaBballFan

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "steviefranchise":</div><div class="quote_post">Most underrated playa has got to be Jamal Mashburn, i love his game and his stats are awesome, but he never gets no love from anybody.</div>

    He is underrated but he's also an all star


    In my opinion he should be MVP candidate beucase his team is playing great right now and his stats are awesome
     
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    steviefranchise JBB JustBBall Member

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    True, but look at Brad Miller, he's an All-Star, and you cannot tell me that he isn't underrated.
    Bein' underrated means that your really good, but never get any love for what your doin'. and that's a perfect description of my man Jamal.
     
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    Artest is underrated. He defends soooo well, held kobe to 20pts n tmac to 10+ pts. His offence improved a lot 2.
     
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    I was thinking Arenas before I even opened the thread. Good call.

    I'm baaaaaack!![​IMG]
     
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    ron isnt underatted anymore, i think Gilbert Arenas, Matt Harpring, Ricky Davis are very underatted any they improved so much.
     
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    shawn marion is still underrated
     
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    All Stars arent underatted, there known as all stars and people vote them in, or the coaches do.
     

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