last time i checked he was getting 21/22 a game so i guess it went down..but 10.4 is very good for a PF...it is better than average.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Thurgood":</div><div class="quote_post">i think hes elite he wears a leg sleeve like kobe and tmac so he must be elite</div> haha So basically just another kobe wannabe..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post">last time i checked he was getting 21/22 a game so i guess it went down..but 10.4 is very good for a PF...it is better than average.</div> 6 is pretty damn good rebounding for a pg
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Thurgood":</div><div class="quote_post">i think hes elite he wears a leg sleeve like kobe and tmac so he must be elite</div> i'm gonna try that when i play 8)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post">I know what his stats are and they don't tell the whole story.. he isn't the guy you can depend on in must win games.Sheed has been good and on a team with less options would be a 23 and 10 guy....JO is good and is getting 22 and 10 rebounds per game..both are better than francis..</div> how can he not be the person you can depend on when the games on the line? Hes won many games for us down the stretch, and have taken us to over time in several games. look at the sheet, from what i recall, we are tied for lead in most ot games this year. also, not counting last year, where he sat out like 1/3 season, and still performed well enough, to start the allstar game. in 00-01. the rockets set a record for a team with the best win total ever, and not make the playoffs. This was in the west. Had Houston been in the east that year, they quite possibly could have been a number 1 seed. Steve did that. that was dreams last year in houston, and i believe he got 11.88/ppg, in only 58 games. This was a team, that was led by steve, that lost ONLY 5 games to the eastern conference in total. http://clutchcity.net/teams.cfm?Season=2001
sheed sucks this year, i know i have both guys on my fantasy team. i would much rather have franchise than sheed. don't even mention sheed up there, he's only avg 18.4 ppg and 7.7 ppg. franchise only 1.7 boards off from sheed and he's a fricking pg.
Sheed has done fine...francis gets so many boards because his other team-mates can't board.only ming is even a threat..francis has no choice but too.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post">Sheed has done fine...francis gets so many boards because his other team-mates can't board.only ming is even a threat..francis has no choice but too.</div> .......cato is 2nd in the league in boards per 48. only behind wallace. Eddie boards as well. also, you say francis only gets boards cuz his teammates cant board. Steve has averaged 6 boards + a game his entire career. Not to mention last year, he averaged over 7 boards.
francis as i said is good...but there has been at least 8 games where he has done terrible and couldn't hit a shot..where he has cost his team.2 times against us...3 times against spurs and a few against other top teams.He isn't a top elite or top 10 NBA player..plain and simple.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post">francis as i said is good...but there has been at least 8 games where he has done terrible and couldn't hit a shot..where he has cost his team.2 times against us...3 times against spurs and a few against other top teams.He isn't a top elite or top 10 NBA player..plain and simple.</div> heh, its usually against the top teams, that he does do well. Rockets suck against sub 500 teams. as for shooting, shit happens. marbury, francis, kidd, have all had games where they couldnt buy a basket. look it up on the sheet if you believe me.
I think he is at least in the top 25. I think he is good. He can come up with very good plays. For Example the pass to Yao in the OT win over the lakers. Or a 3 pointer to send a game into OT, i cant remember what it was. Hes good IMO
In my opinion Francis is third best PG in the league. Kidd and Payton are better but Steve is younger that both of them. Steve is great all around player and he loved by the fans. He still ain't top 10 player but he is very close. I like his game and I think he will soon be one of the best 10 players. Best 10 players in my opinion 1 Shaq 2 Duncan 3 Kobe 4 KG 5 T Mac 6 Pierce 7 Webber 8 Kidd 9 Dirk 10 AI Steve is close and he will be top 10 in few years.
