QB numbers

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  1. TheBeef

    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    A while back I posted a list of career stats for anonymous QBs and asked the question: Do they belong in the Hall of Fame??.I have decided to do that again but with a more detailed list?.Below are the career numbers of 20 passers?.notice there are no names attached to the list?..they are sorted by yards passing?.I don?t want anyone to add the names or mention who any of these guys are if you know?.What I would like to do is have you guys go through the list and simply state Yes or No as to whether the numbers are Hall of Fame worthy?..feel free to add any comments too??In a week or so I will add the names to the list and tally the results?then I will post 20 more.....I have compiled the same type of list for RBs and WRs too, which I will post separately after we are done with the QBs?.






    Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Comp % Yds/Att Int % TD %
    1.3105 5311 38147 261 199 58.46% 7.18 3.75% 4.91%

    2.2969 5205 37920 247 184 57.04% 7.29 3.54% 4.75%

    3.3193 5599 36876 201 165 57 .03% 6.59 2.95% 3.59%

    4.2874 4779 35467 237 175 60.14% 7.42 3.66% 4.96%

    5.2841 4923 34837 203 175 57.71% 7.08 3.55% 4.12%

    6.2593 5076 34665 209 247 51.08% 6.83 4.87% 4.12%

    7.2874 5024 34241 196 204 57.21% 6.82 4.06% 3.90%

    8.2363 4687 33503 244 268 50.42% 7.15 5.72% 5.21%

    9.2576 4647 33462 199 157 55.43% 7.20 3.38% 4.28%

    10.2667 4149 33124 232 107 64.28% 7.98 2.58% 5.59%

    11.2898 4715 32942 165 141 61.46% 6.99 2.99% 3.50%

    12.2654 4475 32838 197 160 59.31% 7.34 3.58% 4.40%

    13.2433 4262 32224 255 189 57.09% 7.56 4.43% 5.98%

    14.2469 4491 31548 214 224 54.98% 7.02 4.99% 4.77%

    15.2276 4353 30797 196 257 52.29% 7.07 5.90% 4.50%

    16.2429 4289 29979 207 134 56.63% 6.99 3.12% 4.83%

    17.2369 4519 29817 196 209 52.42% 6.60 4.62% 4.34%

    18.2366 4498 29444 201 194 52.60% 6.55 4.31% 4.47%

    19.2136 3741 28711 239 183 57.10% 7.67 4.89% 6.39%

    20.2118 3817 28339 212 221 55.49% 7.42 5.79% 5.55%
     
  2. SportsBoy

    SportsBoy nfl-*****s member

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    Ill take a shot at it

    1.Yes
    2.Yes
    3.Yes
    4.Yes
    5.Yes
    6.No
    7.No
    8.No
    9.Yes
    10.Yes
    11.No
    12.Yes
    13.Yes
    14.No
    15.No
    16.Yes
    17.No
    18.Yes
    19.Yes
    20.No
     
  3. Cowboy71

    Cowboy71 Dallas Cowboys *********

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    This is tough, because I do like to look at things other than stats. What kind of offense they ran, how they performed, etc. Its also tough to look at the numbers without trying to match them up to a name based on knowledge.

    The easiest way for me to do this is to break each down to a one game performance and ask if the applicable stats for one game (say 30 attempts for each player) is acceptable to me for a coach.

    1. Yes
    2. Yes
    3. Marginal - would need to see more info
    4. Yes
    5. Marginal - would need to see more info

    6. No
    7. No
    8. No
    9. Yes
    10. Yes

    11. Yes
    12. Yes
    13. Yes
    14. No
    15. No

    16. Yes
    17. No
    18. Marginal - would need to see more info
    19. Yes
    20. Marginal - would need to see more info

    Of course, when I look at this list, I can't help compare each one to the rest on the list. Individually, they may all have merit based on other considerations. But since I know this blind voting is part of the fun, I'm happy to play along.
     
  4. staley22

    staley22 nfl-*****s member

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    sounds fun

    1.Yes
    2.Yes
    3.Yes
    4.Yes
    5.Yes
    6.No
    7.yes
    8.No
    9.Yes
    10.Yes
    11.No
    12.Yes
    13.no
    14.No
    15.yes
    16.Yes
    17.No
    18.Yes
    19.Yes
    20.yes
     
  5. Bearsfan1

    Bearsfan1 2 Time Defending FF Champion

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    I know who all those qb's are now, so i will abstain
     
  6. nflfan04

    nflfan04 Dazed and Confused

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    1.yes
    2.yes
    3.yes
    4.yes
    5.yes
    6.no
    7.no
    8.np
    9.yes
    10.yes
    11.no
    12.yes
    13.yes
    14.no
    15.no
    16.yes
    17.no
    18.yes
    19.yes
    20.no
     
  7. staley22

    staley22 nfl-*****s member

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    will you post who the players are soon, or do we have to wait longer?
     
  8. TheBeef

    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    a few days....I want to get a little more participation if possible...
     
  9. Giantsfan1

    Giantsfan1 Thread Killer

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    1 yes
    2 yes
    3 yes
    4 yes
    5 yes
    6 no
    7 no
    8 no
    9 yes
    10 no
    11yes
    12yes
    13no
    14 no
    15 no
    16 yes
    17 no
    18 no
    19 yes
    20 no

    I think that super BOWLS MATTER ALOT!!!!!!!!
     
  10. TheBeef

    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    we all do, but if I put the number of super bowls on the list it will really obvious who some of the guys are
     
  11. staley22

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    I agree with TB if he put SBs up everyone would know exactly who they were
     
  12. TheBeef

    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    I will be posting the results tommorow morning, so if anyone else wants to participate, please do so between now and then....after which I will put up the 1st set of RBs
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Comp % Yds/Att Int % TD %
    1.3105 5311 38147 261 199 58.46% 7.18 3.75% 4.91%

    2.2969 5205 37920 247 184 57.04% 7.29 3.54% 4.75%

    3.3193 5599 36876 201 165 57 .03% 6.59 2.95% 3.59%

    4.2874 4779 35467 237 175 60.14% 7.42 3.66% 4.96%

    5.2841 4923 34837 203 175 57.71% 7.08 3.55% 4.12%

    6.2593 5076 34665 209 247 51.08% 6.83 4.87% 4.12%

    7.2874 5024 34241 196 204 57.21% 6.82 4.06% 3.90%

    8.2363 4687 33503 244 268 50.42% 7.15 5.72% 5.21%

    9.2576 4647 33462 199 157 55.43% 7.20 3.38% 4.28%

    10.2667 4149 33124 232 107 64.28% 7.98 2.58% 5.59%

    11.2898 4715 32942 165 141 61.46% 6.99 2.99% 3.50%

    12.2654 4475 32838 197 160 59.31% 7.34 3.58% 4.40%

    13.2433 4262 32224 255 189 57.09% 7.56 4.43% 5.98%

    14.2469 4491 31548 214 224 54.98% 7.02 4.99% 4.77%

    15.2276 4353 30797 196 257 52.29% 7.07 5.90% 4.50%

    16.2429 4289 29979 207 134 56.63% 6.99 3.12% 4.83%

    17.2369 4519 29817 196 209 52.42% 6.60 4.62% 4.34%

    18.2366 4498 29444 201 194 52.60% 6.55 4.31% 4.47%

    19.2136 3741 28711 239 183 57.10% 7.67 4.89% 6.39%

    20.2118 3817 28339 212 221 55.49% 7.42 5.79% 5.55%</div>

    here are the results....

    1.Unanimous HOFer...Dave Krieg 0 titles
    2.Unanimous HOFer...Boomer Esiaison 0 titles
    3.80% HOFer...Drew Bledsoe 0 titles
    4.Unanimous HOFer...Jim Kelly 0 titles
    5.80% HOFer...Jim Everett 0 titles
    6.Unanimous NOs...Jim Hart 0 titles
    7.20% HOFer...Steve Deberg 0 titles
    8.Unanimous NOs...John Hadl 0 titles
    9.Unanimous HOFer...Phil Simms 1 title
    10.80% HOFer...Steve Young 1 title
    11.40% HOFer...Troy Aikman 3 titles
    12.Unanimous HOFer...Ken Anderson 0 titles
    13.80% HOFer...Sonny Jurgenson 0 titles
    14.Unanimous NOs...John Brodie 0 titles
    15.20% HOFer...Norm Snead 0 titles
    16.Unanimous HOFer...Randall Cunningham 0 titles
    17.Unanimous NOs...Joe Ferguson 0 titles
    18.60% HOFer...Roman Gabriel 0 titles
    19.Unanimous HOFer...Len Dawson 3 titles
    20.20% HOFer...Y.A. Tittle 0 titles

    in order to get credit for a title, the player had to start the game at QB or throw the majority of his teams passes...
     
  14. Pats37

    Pats37 The Next Big Thing

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    WOW Aikman only gets 40% thats nuts. Good Post beef. Very Intresting. I may try the RB one.
     
  15. Cowboy71

    Cowboy71 Dallas Cowboys *********

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>WOW Aikman only gets 40% thats nuts. Good Post beef. Very Intresting. I may try the RB one.</div>

    Goes to show you that scheme goes a long way to your success. I think Aikman was a very good quarterback and was in the right scheme. However, if I had to build a team based on a run-and-shoot offense, Aikman would not be close to the guy to call.

    Its a fun game, but you have to take the titles into account as well as the team they played on. You would also have to look at people like Jim Hart and Archie Manning and wonder if they were the greatest QBs ever (lol) to put up the stats they did considering the teams they played on.
     
  16. td4td

    td4td Fearless ****** of Orange Crush

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    Aikman was awesome and his accuracy was second to none.
     

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