<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Rocko220":</div><div class="quote_post"> "...to Tracy McGrady; he wasn't quite ready for his "MJ against the Cavs in '88" series. More importantly, I think he drops a notch behind Kobe again. Kobe comes up big when it matters. In the last three games of that Pistons series, you couldn't say the same about T-Mac. I'll admit it ... I'm disappointed." </div> tmac had 37 points in game 6</div> And in the nost important game he only had 21 on game 7.. no way can anyone say there is a big difference between this two..it is veyr equal..no player is a whole lot better than the other
i understand that it's pretty much equal and stuff, but i get sick of kobe fans using some of the stats(assists, kobe should have a lot more with shaq), and 3 rings. it pisses me off so much. all i can say is it's almost even, but from how espn and other media make it seem like kobe's a lot better than tmac. it's just annoying. kobe's overrated. he's still among the top 2 sg/sf,(might be #1 or #2) but he's still overrated in that he gets all the attention from the media.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">ok if we are talking about just kobe and TMac then Tmac is only one inch taller and kobe probably has better hops so they are pretty much equal, they both rebound well TMac averages 6.5 and Kobe 6.9, for a 2 guard those numbers are really good, they are the two best averages in the league for a shooting guard. if we add in VC ok TMac has a couple inches on him but VC can jump higher so then again it pretty much evens out, plus really 2 inches does not matter, so VC is not as good a rebounder since TMac averages about 2 more boards a game the point i was trying to make with ben wallace is that height isnt all that important when it comes to rebounding, yes it helps but u dont see Shaq getting crucified because shorter ppl out rebound him i think the point of all this is getting lost, vinsanity originally said TMac was a horrible rebounder and that is not true, TMac is a great rebounder for his position as is Kobe </div> Two inches is A LOT in the NBA and with the LENGTH Tracy has and his HOPS he should be getting almost 8 boards a game, but I'm not holding it against him. Also you don't understand that if (for example) Tim Duncan decided to concentrate on NOTHING but rebounds then he will average close to 20 boards a game. That is all Ben Wallace does. He REFUSES to do anything else in the game but rebound the ball and play defense. If he had to expend the energy Timmy D does trying to SCORE then he won't get nearly as much rebounds as he does.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sunsfan1357":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">ok if we are talking about just kobe and TMac then Tmac is only one inch taller and kobe probably has better hops so they are pretty much equal, they both rebound well TMac averages 6.5 and Kobe 6.9, for a 2 guard those numbers are really good, they are the two best averages in the league for a shooting guard. if we add in VC ok TMac has a couple inches on him but VC can jump higher so then again it pretty much evens out, plus really 2 inches does not matter, so VC is not as good a rebounder since TMac averages about 2 more boards a game the point i was trying to make with ben wallace is that height isnt all that important when it comes to rebounding, yes it helps but u dont see Shaq getting crucified because shorter ppl out rebound him i think the point of all this is getting lost, vinsanity originally said TMac was a horrible rebounder and that is not true, TMac is a great rebounder for his position as is Kobe </div> Two inches is A LOT in the NBA and with the LENGTH Tracy has and his HOPS he should be getting almost 8 boards a game, but I'm not holding it against him. Also you don't understand that if (for example) Tim Duncan decided to concentrate on NOTHING but rebounds then he will average close to 20 boards a game. That is all Ben Wallace does. He REFUSES to do anything else in the game but rebound the ball and play defense. If he had to expend the energy Timmy D does trying to SCORE then he won't get nearly as much rebounds as he does.</div> 2 inches is nothing in the nba and if we are comparing Kobe to TMac then it is only one inch, McGrady is a guard this means he spends all his time on the perimeter, he scores from out there and defends other guards out there, if he was a forward yes, he should average 8 a game but since he is a guard 6.5 is really good, when is the last time a guard averaged 8 boards a game, those are unreasonable expectations. and there is more to rebounding than being tall and having hops, maybe u dont play bball so u dont understand this. and i do understand that tim duncan could average 20 boards a game if that was all he concentrated on, i was using ben wallace as an example that height doesnt matter, since u dont like that example i will use another, how bout elton brand, he is maybe 6'8", yet he can outrebound taller players im tired of posting on this topic so this is my last response ive made my point
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">2 inches is nothing in the nba and if we are comparing Kobe to TMac then it is only one inch, McGrady is a guard this means he spends all his time on the perimeter, he scores from out there and defends other guards out there, if he was a forward yes, he should average 8 a game but since he is a guard 6.5 is really good, when is the last time a guard averaged 8 boards a game, those are unreasonable expectations. and there is more to rebounding than being tall and having hops, maybe u dont play bball so u dont understand this. and i do understand that tim duncan could average 20 boards a game if that was all he concentrated on, i was using ben wallace as an example that height doesnt matter, since u dont like that example i will use another, how bout elton brand, he is maybe 6'8", yet he can outrebound taller players im tired of posting on this topic so this is my last response ive made my point</div> Two inches is a lot in the NBA. Heck, it can be the difference between playing your natural position or another position you aren't familiar with. It can also be the difference of being selected in the first round of the draft or the second round. As for Tracy; he does a helluva lot of posting up so he isn't on the perimeter as many times as you are making it sound like. I really don't care about his rebounding numbers because I think they are find (sort of), but he should be able to outrebound other guards who he is taller than, has more length than, and can jump as high or higher than. It's that simple. A guy with those advantages should be able to get more rebounds than other guys at his position. Also, Elton Brand has some of the longest arms in the league so that helps him. Like you said, it isn't all height...it's LENGTH too and that's an advantage that Elton has.
i have to go with t-mac although he dosent have shaq he put a team in the playoffs and almost won a seires.....without shaq lakers wouldent even be in the playoffs
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "knicks235":</div><div class="quote_post">i have to go with t-mac although he dosent have shaq he put a team in the playoffs and almost won a seires.....without shaq lakers wouldent even be in the playoffs</div> now laker fans will say that the magic are in the weak east, while the lakers are in the tough west. :?. tmac shoulda won that series though, he just disappeared in game 7. next year he's getting out of the 1st round, having home court advantage, winning MVP, and leading the magic to 50+ wins.
