Toughest stat

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  1. Philly_Freak93

    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    what is the toughest stat to achieve, and who is the likliest player to achieve it this season?

    i say Toughest on Offense is 2,000 yards Rushing, and Defense is 10+ INTs.

    I think that LT is the closest to breakin 2K this year, and for 10+ INTS, id say the next player to do it would have to be Ed Reed
     
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    Bearsfan1 2 Time Defending FF Champion

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    i would say 48 TDs is the hardest stat to achieve in in football, or more than 40tds in a season. On defense i would say more than 22 sacks in a season by gastineau, the only other time it was reached was when 2 players cheated and conspired to break down the integrity of the game.
     
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    toughest stat to calculate; QB efficiency w/o question. Typing in Excel is murder.

    Toughest stat for a player to accrue? 48 passing TD or 5000 passing yards come to mind. But, I'd put my money on 20 rushing & 20 receiving TD's in the same season.
     
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    kcgsc Chiefs Enthusiast Extraordinaire

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    I say none of us can mention the name of our team in posts as many times as Dawk types "Eagles" on these boards. Does that count?
     
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    Toughest stat is passing for over 5000 yards in a year or the td passes at 48. Gastineau's record i notice that someone else noticed that favre gave that sack to straham as well. Win it fair!
     
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    WAY to go BUCS, saying it like it is!!! Favre and strahan should of both been suspended for one year for cheating, because that is what it boiled down too.
     
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    Cowboy71 Dallas Cowboys *********

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    I agree that the sack wasn't legit, but the record is obviously achievable. Regardless of what Favre did, Strahan did get up to the record by himself.

    I would go with the 5000/48. In today's league, I don't think we are going to see Marinoesque numbers easily. I think breaking the INT record will be hard to do too.
     
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    2000 recieving yards, some have been close. Can it be done?
     
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    I agree that Marinos number have to be the toughest but the 2,000 receiving yards is and intresting one as well.
     
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    The toughest record to break was set by the number one cornerback in NFL history. He set the Interception Record as a rookie in 1952 when he picked off 14 passes in 12 games!!! Dick "Night Train" Lane's record has stood the test of time ... 53 years and counting even though they now play four extra games!

    End of discussion.
     
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    Wow interesting stat zack i didnt know such a record existed i agree with ya on that stat. 14 ints in 12 games is impressive.
     
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    I kind of like the 2000 yards receiving stat. That will be broken, but I definitely think it's a tough one. 14 Ints would be impressive along with 22+ sacks.

    How about 3000 total yards by a running back? Has it been done? Who has come the closest?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2003)</div><div class='quotemain'>How about 3000 total yards by a running back? Has it been done? Who has come the closest?</div>

    SF; I believe we are on the same page in terms of most difficult stat. Like w/ mine, I would guess Priest Holmes and/or Marshal Faulk have come the closest.
     
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    Cowboy71 Dallas Cowboys *********

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zackman)</div><div class='quotemain'>The toughest record to break was set by the number one cornerback in NFL history. He set the Interception Record as a rookie in 1952 when he picked off 14 passes in 12 games!!! Dick "Night Train" Lane's record has stood the test of time ... 53 years and counting even though they now play four extra games!

    End of discussion.</div>

    Exactly my point. I think Lane was one of the best corners, although you can't go off of this record anymore. Evidently coaches are smarter now. They tend to avoid hot corners. Lane would never reach that record today. Not that he isn't talented enough, but they would just avoid him. Look at Deion. Teams avoided him when he played in Dallas (even more than they should have).

    Once a player approaches double-digits in INTs, he is going to see a lot less balls going his way.
     
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    LOL, ok i will behave [​IMG]
     
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    I agree that 2000 receiving yards will be a tough one to break
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cowboy71)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zackman)</div><div class='quotemain'>The toughest record to break was set by the number one cornerback in NFL history. He set the Interception Record as a rookie in 1952 when he picked off 14 passes in 12 games!!! Dick "Night Train" Lane's record has stood the test of time ... 53 years and counting even though they now play four extra games!

    End of discussion.</div>

    Exactly my point. I think Lane was one of the best corners, although you can't go off of this record anymore. Evidently coaches are smarter now. They tend to avoid hot corners. Lane would never reach that record today. Not that he isn't talented enough, but they would just avoid him. Look at Deion. Teams avoided him when he played in Dallas (even more than they should have).

    Once a player approaches double-digits in INTs, he is going to see a lot less balls going his way.</div>

    Cowboy I don't think I agree that coaches are smarter now. But it is a fact that rule changes over the last fifty year have ALWAYS favored the offensive side of the ball. It is highly likely that Marino could not have thrown for 2500 yards or 24 TD's (50%) if he was playing when Night Train did. (I don't think he was tough enough to last a season under the NFL rules of that day)

    What's interesting about Night Train is the fact that he was 6'2" and 210 lbs. Not only was he fast and quick, he hit with the force that only Dick Butkus could match. He is the one player of his day that with out a doubt would be a Pro Bowler today. You mention Deion ... but many would say he was a sissy tackler. It's true that Night Train was one rookie that helped educate coaches. But I think the fact that he was a rookie doing things that had never been done had QB's wanting to beat him against their coaches wishes. Johnny Unitas has confirmed that.

    I still say 14 picks in a season is "The Toughest Stat" to achive. Why waste time on stats that have never been achived? Shouldn't four extra games and so many more passes per game off set the rule changes?
     
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    It's just not going to happen in todays game. Cowboys is right, if a player is hot, they just wont throw in his direction. Thats why a lot of times, the best corners in the league do not lead the league in INT's.
     
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    Zack,
    First don't confuse my post and think I was trying to compare Sanders and Lane. I will not dispute that Lane and Sanders were at different ends of the tackling spectrum. And maybe "smarter" was a poor choices of words. I think the schemes are much more advance now, though. I am sure Unitas would have had to take some time to adjust to a zone blitz, for example. I think today's coaches are much more advanced in the game than the coaches 50 years ago.

    All of your points taken, I still say that it is odd that they threw Lane's way that often. They didn't even throw the ball as often back then as they do now. I wonder who caught more balls thrown his direction---Lane or the receiver he was coverering. Maybe "smarter" was the right term....
     

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