does parcells comments offend any1 here? or is any1 here oriental?. if i was a Asain i would not be offended by his remarks because thats a ancient word, that was used in the 40s and it wouldnt and doesnt bother me that it was said. i think he meant it in a way of snaky. the problem i have with what parcells said was that he went out of his way to tell the media what i call"useless info'' no1 need to know what they call trick plays and problably nobody cares. he didnt need to add that into his already to-long story about his coaches. something tells me that he knew he would get controversy over it and wanted itt.
Big deal. So what. Could Parcells have said some thing different? Yes. Why couldn't they be referred to as trick or gadget plays like everyone else does unless you are Mike Martz then they are called standard. I can't help but think this is masking larger issues. Is it coincedence this story broke before Tuna & Bryant got into an argument? I wonder?
what are you sayin about the Antonio Bryant bloww up. that blow up was to put the Jap comments on the DL?
Oddly enough, two Japanese reporters were at Valley Ranch to cover the minicamp. An editor of a magazine that that while there was a chance people could be offended, he didn't think it was a big deal and didn't think Parcells meant any harm. IMO, Parcells could have said something different (or not at all), but I don't think he meant any harm by it. I think you have to somewhat understand a person before you can really judge how they say something. People with black skin can call another person of their race a "ni****" in a good way, but when a white person says it, it is taken that it is racist. Probably rightfully so because that is most often the intention. But not always. In Parcells case, I think he is just a little ignorant about what PC terms to use in today's society. Some are obvious, but others are not so much. I doubt he hangs out watching a lot of TV, so the education is not there. In fact, when he prefaced the comment by saying he meant no offense to Orientals, it should be obvious he is more ignorant than racist. Orientals is not a word that is used much anymore. I doubt he knows that.
I would not be suprised if i saw Bryant on a different roster in Sept. Parcells is a no nonsense type of guy.......... so whats all this nonsense all about?????????
"Dude, the Chinamen is not the issue dude...and please dude, the correct nomenclature is asian americans" from one of the greatest movies of all time, "The Big Lebowski"
Oriental describes things like rugs or soup.... Asian describes a person's race. I'm sure Parcells is a bit out of the PC loop... with his millions, I'm sure he doesn't really care all that much either.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>"Dude, the Chinamen is not the issue dude...and please dude, the correct nomenclature is asian americans" from one of the greatest movies of all time, "The Big Lebowski"</div> But Beef, did the rug not tie together the room? And for that matter, for the Parcells/Bryant spat, Antonio's first name may change to "Larry". "Do you see what happens Larry?"
i thought it was not insensitive in the slightest. it was an accurate assessment of the japanese strategy in attacking america. If the japanese people have a problem with it we should nuke them again, and if any "asian-americans" have a problem with it we should issue them a visa and give them a flight to japan.
Nuke them again? I thought we dropped the atomic bomb on Japan. I think the comments Parcells made were ignorant. I think that the "send them back where they came from" attitude is one of the stupidest attitudes that a person can hold. We're all immigrants in America, unless your a Native American. It's 2004 and I think it's time that we quit blaming Japanese-Americans for something they didn't have any part of doing. I would also hope that if any Japanese-Americans come to this site that they would feel like a welcome member, but I guess bigotry will live forever.
it isnt bigotry, it is national pride. Parcells referred to a "jap play" as a play that came out of nowhere, it was a surprise. That is what happened at pearl harbor. My suggestion was hyperbole and not serious. I do think that if someone has a huge problem with his comment they should not stay in a country that allows free speech. I was harsh on japan because of the lack of respect that they showed us this week. Prime minister of Japan decided that reagan's funeral was not worth his time, so instead of staying here for 24 hours(he was already here for G8 summit) he headed back to japan. Well, if our allies have so little respect for our biggest leaders i lose respect for them.
There are some distinctions to be made. First, it is one thing to appreciate living in a country that promotes free speech, but it is an entirely different thing to have to like everything that is said. If someone says something about my mom, I can appreciate their right to say it, but you better believe I won't like it and will have some free speech to hand right back to them. If folks want to support Parcells' right to make racist comments, then I hope they support Japanese-Americans right to say what they want about Parcells comments. To do otherwise is hypocritcal. Second, there is a difference between being of Japanese decent and being a Japanese politician. I don't think there are many guys on this site that want to be judged because of the actions of former President Clinton. I won't judge Japanese people or Japanese-Americans because of the actions of their Prime Minister.
Furthermore, who employs you? I work in a technology company that has nearly every race, color, or creed represented literally from the bottom to the top. I would never talk like that at work. "Jap plays"....not a part of my vocabulary. I don't know if I'd be fired or eventually laid off, but I'd be crazy to take that chance. That's my livlihood that I'm gambling with, and I kind of like what they're paying me right now.
i dont think the comment is racist, it describes an action that the japenese took, i would say it at my job, regardless of where i work, because i consider it my right. If i was fired for it i would sue. I dont have a problem with people responding to his comment other than "I dont think he should be allowed to make those kind of comments" or " I think he should be fined, fired, etc. for those comments" those curtail free speech, and PC thugs have begun to curtail free speech where it matters most. I blame the liberal media and its bias for creating this for of mccarthyism where if you say something that is not directly positive and include a reference to any race or sex other than white male, than you are a racist or sexist.
Bill Parcells does have the right to make the comments that he made, but the Dallas Cowboys and the NFL do have the right to discipline him for comments made while he represents their organization. When I was a teenager and working at a Dairy Queen, I saw a manager call someone to the back and tell them that he wouldn't tolerate this employee cursing on the front line. If he didn't watch his mouth, then he would be terminated. Is that denying a man his right to free speech? At the center where I work, if I make disparaging remarks about race or sexual orientation, I know that I can be disciplined and potentially terminated. Is that denying my right to free speech. I accept that when I'm working at the center and representing the center, then I need to speak with a certain level of professionalism. That's the real world. If I were my own boss, then I guess I could use whatever language I want, but that's not the case. A racist remark is a racist remark no matter what justification you use. Blame the liberal media. Blame McCarthyism. (Wasn't Senator Joe McCarthy a Republican?) It's still no excuse. Racism, according to Merriam-Webster is 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination No matter how you cut it, Parcells comment were unfair and disparaging to a lot of Japanese people and he should be embarrassed by his ignorant words. I'm sure that world history will show that "sneakyness" is not a trait solely possessed by Japanese people. The real kicker is that Parcells knew it was wrong when he made the remarks in the first place. Moron.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>I blame the liberal media and its bias for creating this for of mccarthyism where if you say something that is not directly positive and include a reference to any race or sex other than white male, than you are a racist or sexist.</div> Regardless of what Parcell's said, right or wrong, fined or unpunished, BF1 was right on with this statement. We have become an oversensitive society looking for the next "racist" comment that is considered inappropriate. If you're a white male, you're on eggshells with the media in any form. I mean look at the conversation that Parcell's spurned by saying the word Jap, which is short for Japanese. He could have used many other more derogatory terms. Should he be fined or punished? No, but in today's social realm, it's just not "appropriate".
I would agree that broadcasters of color should be held to the same standards as caucasion broadcasters. If Monday Night Football hires Charles Barkley and he makes a crack about white players, then he should hear about it.
