ESPN.com <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">As those MLB All-Star ballots roll in, we couldn't help but ponder the mystery: Why do so many fans think Ivan Rodriguez is the best catcher in the NL? Why is Paul Lo Duca not even among the top five vote getters? Obviously, Lo Duca is underrated. And I-Rod is overrated. But there are a lot of athletes in sports today who are much more overrated than I-Rod. Here are the Top 10 whose reputations most exceed them. Vinsanity has had trouble staying healthy the past two seasons. 1. Vince Carter The second coming of Michael Jordan? Not quite. To quote one ESPN editor who's seen this country through a bagful of undeclared wars, "Vince Carter is the most overrated athlete of my lifetime." 2. Mike Tyson Ten heavyweights we'd take over Tyson: Muhammad Ali Joe Frazier George Foreman Larry Holmes Joe Louis Rocky Marciano Sonny Liston Jack Johnson Gene Tunney Jack Dempsey 3. Derek Jeter What's the deal with Steinbrenner asking Jeter, in that Visa commercial, how he can afford his nights on the town? George, you pay the man. Or, we should say, overpay ($19 million a year through 2010). Jeter's good. Very good. Probable Hall of Famer. But his performance has declined every year since 1999, and he's only the fourth-best shortstop in the AL. Defensively? Adequate, at best, as Rob Neyer explains here. 4. All closers What does it take to make an "excellent" closer? Give a half-decent pitcher the ball, a lead of up to three runs, nobody on base, and only one inning to pitch every two or three days. He'll rack up dozens of "saves" and be called "one of the best closers" and reap millions in rewards. As one GM told Peter Gammons, "There are about three closers who really make a difference in the game. Otherwise, the notion of paying an Armando Benitez or Robb Nen $6.7 million to $8.8 million is outdated and silly." He's gritty, but Erstad has been a mediocre hitter other than his fluke 2000 season. 5. Darin Erstad Erstad had one great season in his career, and many poor-to-fair seasons. He may contribute the "intangibles," but the Angels center fielder is the worst-hitting regular center fielder in the AL, and near the bottom among alloutfielders. During the 2002 World Series, Angels manager Mike Scioscia said, "We have some guys who can hit the ball out of the park, but predominantly we're a club that does battle at the plate and moves runners along, and it's been successful for us this year." Erstad wasn't one of the guys who could hit the ball out of the park (19 homers total in 2001 and 2002), and he wasn't one of the runners who got moved along (terrible .313 on-base percentage in 2002). One great season does not a great (or even good) player make. 6. David Duval and Phil Mickelson How many majors have the two won between them? Mickelson: 0 (in 44 tries). Duval: 1 (in nine years on the PGA). One reason Tiger's been so incredibly dominant: Duval and Mickelson can't touch him. If we're looking for someone to challenge Woods, it's way past the time to start looking elsewhere. 7. Antoine Walker A friend's e-mail said, simply, "Check out that shooting percentage!" So we did. And, wow. He's the worst shooter in the NBA among players who averaged at least 8 points per game. Lowest field-goal percentage (.388). Unfortunately, only five players in the league put the ball up more. Walker was also among the worst 3-point shooters, which begs the question of why he attempted a whopping 582 3-pointers last season. And here's the topper: Shaq shot better from the charity stripe than Walker. Jake the Snake will get a chance to prove how overrated he is with the Broncos. 8. Jake Plummer Career passer rating: 69.0. Career TD passes: 90. Career INTs: 112. Sure, he played in the football wasteland that is Arizona, but that's no excuse: Plummer did nothing to elevate the Cardinals. That's what a good QB is supposed to do. But Plummer's not good. There's no evidence to suggest he is. So, the question remains: Why did the Broncos gave Plummer a $7 million bonus to sign with them as a free agent? 9. Pavel Bure The Russian Rocket? For years he's been struggling even more than the Russian space program. And he comes at a higher price. 10. Chris Webber Doesn't battle it out under the basket. Averages 60 games per season. Hasn't done what it takes to move from "very good" to "great." It's all been said before, and it's all true. Page 2's Charley Rosen, who's forgotten more about basketball than we'll ever know, once ran through a list of the league's clutch players. Was C-Webb in there? You bet. As a "decoy." Ouch. </div> the guy got injured bloody of times the last two seasons, and those injuries what affected his performance in most of the games he played over the last 2 years !!! we all know what he can do when he's healthy ...
she did it first. i agree half the list is bogus but i think they got carter right on. hes a bust but mauybe not number one
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "deestillballin":</div><div class="quote_post">LOL DAMN YOU FOR STEALIN MY POST LOL</div> oh yeah ? then how come I posted my thread at 10:36 and u posted yours at 10:50 ?? I wrote the thread 14 minutes before u did ! and here's a link od urs to chick its time : http://www.justbball.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3248 DAMN KID !!
yes but hers is more useable. more genreal yours specifaically about vince. hers stays. go post in hers http://www.justbball.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=48911#48911
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "olskoolFunktitude":</div><div class="quote_post">yes but hers is more useable. more genreal yours specifaically about vince. hers stays. go post in hers http://www.justbball.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=48911#48911</div> I know .. u'r right ! i'm just proving that i didn't steale her thread problem solved
<font color="blue">no one wins... thanks for the topic halfmanhalfamazing. since the other thread is getting more replies, you can post over there... here's the link again, http://www.justbball.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=48911#48911 thread closed by B-Ball215</font>
