<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "slamduncan21":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Dr. Funk":</div><div class="quote_post"> How can you waste talent averaginf 28 ppg, nearly 6 rpg and 4 apg?? That sounds like an excellent use of talent to me. I just dont understand why Vince Carter is the main target, while there are players like Grant Hill, Antonio McDyess that are injured. Michael Jordan was injured...Another thing, how can he be the most overated athlete if he's the most athletic by far. :roll:</div> there's plenty of guys out there who have athleticism like him. they just dont use it and it all goes to waste. VC does use his athletisicm, but not as much as he could. and yea, Jordan was injured that one season, but no one's gonna target him. he's JORDAN. played through the flu w/ an amazing game. no ones gonna target him</div> Jordan is Jordan, Carter is Carter. What about when Shaq was injured, and that was only a toe for god sakes. Vince Carter is a dunker, thats how he gets his points, from the paint. How can you jump if your knee is as good as dead. If Duncan gets injured tommorow stepping out of his 250,000 dollar car, he wont face as near as much critism that vince faces.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Dr. Funk":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "purehoops":</div><div class="quote_post">of course noone is gunna think there fav player is overrated... Vince was overrated... people used to think he was a top 5 player... which he NEVER was... this man slacks non stop and is wastin loads of talent... the ways he carries himself, is like he doesnt give a rats ass about anythin basketball related anymore... this guy has fallen off the NBA map... HARD</div> How can you waste talent averaginf 28 ppg, nearly 6 rpg and 4 apg?? That sounds like an excellent use of talent to me. I just dont understand why Vince Carter is the main target, while there are players like Grant Hill, Antonio McDyess that are injured. Michael Jordan was injured...Another thing, how can he be the most overated athlete if he's the most athletic by far. :roll:</div> if hes the most talented he should be a top 7-8 player, hes not even top 10 anymore... the way he carries himself off the court (showin up concerts in the middle season ect ect)... hes still a good player but some games he is no where to be found, he'll have a Chris Dudley shootin night one night after droping 30 the night before... superstars stay consistent...
purehoops you have to wake up , vince is a top ten player when healthy, he shoots almost 50% (48%), and he himself carried his team and were a shot away from going to the ECF. Vince had like 15 straight games shooting over 50% when comming back from an injury, he scored 23 pts in 21 mins his first game back. This season was the only season he was inconsistent due to lack of minutes.
The fact is he is never healthy anymore... do we give Grant Hill this excuse or McDyess, McDyess was a 20/10 guy when healthy... Im sure I could name pretty close 8-10 players Id rather have on my squad than Vince...
S. O'neal T. Duncan K. Garnett K. Bryant T. McGrady A. Iverson D. Nowitizki J. Kidd J. O'neal P. Pierce C. Webber S. Marbury G. Payton thats before anyone asked... there are other players I would take over Vince too, but they are personal choices... most people would take this list of 13 people over Vince... only biased fans would put Vince in the top 10...
i would take Amare over vince, Carmelo over vince, even queen james over him....vince WAS good now he is just average...the only reason he made the allstar game is bcuz he is loved by fans cuz he can dunk...if the coaches selected the allstar game players he wouldnt be close to makin it
i like how you said biased. most of the people defending VC are Raptors fans, so it's only natural for them to defend their superstar. that list is just about right. i'd add Amare, like Shady Records said. there's tons of players i'd take over Vince.
vince was amazing! hes only average bcuz of the injuries...but im starting to lose some respect bcuz he is a pu$$y
I really like Vince, cuz hes an absolute incredible baller which has been rare seen before. I read some sh*tty crap about him, but people who start, calling him bad dont really know what they say, cuz he?s a human being like you and me
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "slamduncan21":</div><div class="quote_post">i like how you said biased. most of the people defending VC are Raptors fans, so it's only natural for them to defend their superstar. that list is just about right. i'd add Amare, like Shady Records said. there's tons of players i'd take over Vince.</div> You just dont like him because he always dunks on Duncan. You have no say in this.
i could care less if he dunked over duncan. amare has dunked over duncan too. i'm sure there might be other guys along with them that i/we've never seen. that has nothing to do with what i think of VC.
one good thing about carter is there is nobody he cant dunk over carter was loved at first cause of his flying ability,after all the injurys and hardly never playing,hes got nothin but sh*t from critics,which in turn influences peoples thinking
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "purehoops":</div><div class="quote_post">S. O'neal T. Duncan K. Garnett K. Bryant T. McGrady A. Iverson D. Nowitizki J. Kidd J. O'neal P. Pierce C. Webber S. Marbury G. Payton thats before anyone asked... there are other players I would take over Vince too, but they are personal choices... most people would take this list of 13 people over Vince... only biased fans would put Vince in the top 10...</div> top 10. how can anyone in their right mind put vince in the top 25 in the game now. he doesnt even play. when he does its still a streaatch to put him in the top 15-20
The thing is everyone is basing it on the stage he is at now. If anyone hear had the injury he had, they wouldnt play for a long time. Him HEALTHY he is a top 10 player. I'm not even a huge Vince fan, hes no where near my list of fav players, but he is a good player no matter what you think. All of these things are your opinions. He averages 24 ppg for his career so far, how the hell is that bad? Before Ray Allen and Kobe beat it, he broke a record for most threes in a half (or a game i cant remember). He is one of the most athletic players in the league along with a jumpshot. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean hes a bad player, (i dont even like him that much and i know that) grow up...
If Vince is healthy I'd take him infront of all those other players on your list. Vince, athletic with a j, or Dirk, tall and jacks up three's...When Carter is healthy, he makes his team win. On his first game back, on Jan 26th, he scored 23 points in 21 minutes, thats more then a point per minute and most importantly defeated the Kings, and CWebb still had a triple double.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "ShadyRecords":</div><div class="quote_post">vince WAS good now he is just average</div> he is? thats news to me. i havnt seen him play much over the past two seasons to judge that kind of decrease in his game. injuries do not equal a bad baller....its an injured baller.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "dj_premium_plus":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "ShadyRecords":</div><div class="quote_post">vince WAS good now he is just average</div> he is? thats news to me. i havnt seen him play much over the past two seasons to judge that kind of decrease in his game. injuries do not equal a bad baller....its an injured baller.</div> Makes sence to me. But 21 ppg 4 rpg 3 apg doesnt sound average.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Dr. Funk":</div><div class="quote_post">If Vince is healthy I'd take him infront of all those other players on your list. Vince, athletic with a j, or Dirk, tall and jacks up three's...When Carter is healthy, he makes his team win. On his first game back, on Jan 26th, he scored 23 points in 21 minutes, thats more then a point per minute and most importantly defeated the Kings, and CWebb still had a triple double.</div> thats absolute bais talk right there man... There is no way anyone basketball fan with actuall bball knowledge would take VC over them... seriously... very baised opinion...
someone mentioned shaq and his toe. shaq took a lot of heat for being lazy last season and waiting too long to take care of it. his lack of conditioning was one of the main reasons the lakers lost. but instead of making excuses he admitted he was wrong and it was his fault the lakers lost. he has since hired a personal trainer and is working out in the off-season to be ready for a monster and injury free year. this is the type of classy attitude grant hill and mcdyess have shown. they don't sit back and blame everyone around them for their injuries and diminishing skills. they take full responsibility for it. and yes we are not in the locker rooms, but we don't need to be in the locker rooms with vince. he comes right out and makes comments to the media. he has blamed his teammates, he has blamed lenny wilkens, he has blamed his doctors, but he has never once said it's my fault, i am the reason we lost. that's why people have turned on him. he has not committed to training hard in the off-season to prevent injuries and to improve his game. and his latest fiasco with his comments about chris bosh just shows he hasn't matured. maybe what he said was taken out of context or he was mis-quoted, but from the way vince has been in the past, i don't put it by him saying it.
