WOW!!!!! The heat are so damn lucky...........

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  1. mike18946

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">A shocking oversight by Anthony Carter suddenly has established the Heat as a major player in NBA free agency, one now with the salary-cap space to sign the likes of Jason Kidd, Jermaine O'Neal or Gilbert Arenas.

    The staggering lapse by the veteran point guard effectively terminates the Heat's financial obligation and unexpectedly has it in position to spend as much as $11 million this summer on upgrades

    Instead of settling on a mid-level acquisition to help reverse its slide to last season's 25-67 record, the Heat either can offer a maximum contract to a single All-Star or afford two mid-level free agents, such as P.J. Brown, Gary Payton, Brad Miller or Lamar Odom.

    Holding a player option on the third and final year of his contract for $4.1 million for the coming season, Carter merely had to inform the Heat by Monday's deadline that he would remain under contract.

    Astonishingly, that deadline was allowed to pass without any communication to the Heat by Carter or his representatives. As of the close of business Thursday there still had not been any contact between the parties.

    "Somebody just mentioned this to me," agent Bill Duffy said when contacted Thursday evening before abruptly ending the phone call. A call to Carter's South Florida home was answered and then hung up on. A return call was answered with a response that the guard had stepped out.

    The result is the Heat has eliminated one of its most significant salary-cap headaches. On the open market, Carter does not figure to merit more than the $688,679 NBA minimum this season for a player with four seasons of experience.

    The Heat had the opportunity to release Carter before the end of the season and challenge his right to therefore invoke his 2003-04 option. But coach Pat Riley said he did not believe such a gambit was ethical, nor could he be sure the maneuver would be allowed.

    Carter was signed to the three-year, $12 million contract July 19, 2001, after agreeing to play 2000-01 at a minimal wage as part of the Heat's restocking with Eddie Jones and Brian Grant.

    The option year was included at the end of the deal in case the statistics of the 6-foot-2 guard merited a raise after two seasons. But Carter shot a dismal 35.6 percent this season and was benched for 20 games.

    The wording of Carter's agreement stated he had to "opt in" for the third year of the contract by June 30. There is not believed to be any recourse in such a deadline situation.

    The Heat entered the July 1 start to free agency under the impression it could have as much as $7 million to spend on an additional player.

    At that figure, there was some thought the Heat would save the cap space, wait for Carter's contract to expire next summer, and then make its move on the open market.

    Instead, the Heat finds itself amid the heavy hitters in the league's offseason bidding derby. The only other teams in position to offer a maximum contract to a single player are the San Antonio Spurs, Denver Nuggets, Los Angeles Clippers and Utah Jazz.

    However, Utah and Los Angeles would be removed from that group if the Clippers re-sign Elton Brand and the Jazz brings back Karl Malone.

    By being freed of its commitment to Carter, the Heat is in position to overhaul its alignment at point guard.

    Travis Best, last year's starter, is not expected back as a free agent. Mike James, who emerged at the top reserve at the position last season, is a free agent and is at the Indiana Pacers' summer camp.

    Eddie House, the undersized shooter who also has played point guard under Riley, was not extended a qualifying offer by Monday's deadline and is a free agent. It's possible he now could return with a roster spot no longer required for Carter.</div>

    Heat now have 11 million worth of cap space..where they could go after any top free-agent :shock:

    Imagine this line-up

    PG Arenas or kidd
    SG Wade
    SF butler
    PF Grant
    C Kandi/or brad miller

    thats sick...
     
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    dont forget about eddie he's better than wade :roll:
     
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    He will likely get traded....eddie is a has-been...or should i say too many injuries
     
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    i hate eddie jones, he sucks. i'd rather give wade the playing time over eddie.
     
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    My thoughts exactly..eddie hasn't got that many years left..wade is a bright young star...him and butler could be a nice duo..but then you add in arenas and brad miller :shock:
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post">i hate eddie jones, he sucks. i'd rather give wade the playing time over eddie.</div>

    i would if they sign i pg! then just trade eddie....
     
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    how about a wade/eddie comparision

    Scorring- Eddie
    Passing- Eddie
    1 on 1 defense- Eddie
    Team Defense - Eddie
    Expirience- Eddie
    Handles- Eddie

    Now who would you start?
     
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    well wade hasn't played yet, he has a brighter future than eddie jones. he will be one of the key players for the heat in the future, while eddie jones won't, so i think they will play wade over eddie. currently though if they don't sign a pg, then wade would start at pg and eddie would start at sg, so both would start.
     
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    They might be back in the playoffs now.
     
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    again this year, almost all the teams in the east could make the playoffs.
     
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    Who's Eddie Jones? :shock:
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "NickfromKSF":</div><div class="quote_post">Who's Eddie Jones? :shock:</div> lol
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post">how about a wade/eddie comparision

    Scorring- Eddie
    Passing- Eddie
    1 on 1 defense- Eddie
    Team Defense - Eddie
    Expirience- Eddie
    Handles- Eddie

    Now who would you start?</div>

    eddie isn't a better passer, and wade is about 10 thousand times more explosive than him, hes faster than eddie, and can drive past anyone.

    wade has a crazy huge wingspan, hes only 6'4 but he has a 6'11 wingspan, so defence can be debatable because of speed and wingspan.
     
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    Wade will surprise alot of people next year...
     
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    i agree i was hoping the magic would trade up and pick him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "thefranchise3":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post">how about a wade/eddie comparision

    Scorring- Eddie
    Passing- Eddie
    1 on 1 defense- Eddie
    Team Defense - Eddie
    Expirience- Eddie
    Handles- Eddie

    Now who would you start?</div>

    eddie isn't a better passer, and wade is about 10 thousand times more explosive than him, hes faster than eddie, and can drive past anyone.

    wade has a crazy huge wingspan, hes only 6'4 but he has a 6'11 wingspan, so defence can be debatable because of speed and wingspan.</div>

    Eddie jones has been named to the nba all-defensive team 3 times. so defense is NOT debatable. And eddie averaged 4.2 apg in both seasons he played with charlotte so that means he has a passing ability. His career average for points is 16.8 so explain to me how dwayne wade is 10 thousand times more explosive than him.

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    stats have nothing to do with it.

    would u agree that mike miller is more explosive than darius miles? miller had more ppg.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "thefranchise3":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post">how about a wade/eddie comparision

    Scorring- Eddie
    Passing- Eddie
    1 on 1 defense- Eddie
    Team Defense - Eddie
    Expirience- Eddie
    Handles- Eddie

    Now who would you start?</div>

    eddie isn't a better passer, and wade is about 10 thousand times more explosive than him, hes faster than eddie, and can drive past anyone.

    wade has a crazy huge wingspan, hes only 6'4 but he has a 6'11 wingspan, so defence can be debatable because of speed and wingspan.</div>

    Eddie jones has been named to the nba all-defensive team 3 times. so defense is NOT debatable. And eddie averaged 4.2 apg in both seasons he played with charlotte so that means he has a passing ability. His career average for points is 16.8 so explain to me how dwayne wade is 10 thousand times more explosive than him.

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    We are talking about now..not 5-10 years ago....jones missed over 35 games last year....wade is younger and i truely believe will be the much better allround player
     
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    who is better right now?
     
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    Stats wise jones..but wade is alot younger...is quicker...and will be a much better player..eddie likely won't play much anyway because of injury
     

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