dude heas not 23 he was just saying that. im sure hes in middle school or somthing be nice to him. hell learn. just compose yourself and explain your opinion and amke good points.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post">how can u say that anyone is better than duncan after he destroyed shaq and kobe? those are very lame points on why kobe's the best.</div> yes sportsrock! stick it to 'em! ok, the only reason kobe has a ring, is Shaq, its been proven the time shaq was injured that kobe isn't the best player in the league, stats maybe, but certainly not wins. the lakers were crap. players who can lead their team are the best: Kevin Garnett single handedly moved the wolves into the playoffs, Tim Duncan brought the spurs two rings. Tmac started to do that this year but is in a weaker conference so his case is different. And Jason Kidd who led the Nets to the finals two years in a row. yes kobe is a great player, but not the best, and hes not even the best on his team...(like purehoops or sportsrock said)
I am a big lakers fan... and there is no way that Kobe is Better than KG.sorry just beacuse kobe has 3 rings does not ming he is the best in the L
i am a huge laker fan and kobe is the best player in the league. and shaq is the most dominating. kobe is better than t-mac, kg, and duncan and anyone else you want to put him up against. top 3 players in the leage right now are 1. kobe 2. shaq 3. duncan
shape i have so much respect for you... you usually back up your opinions... but there is no respect for you on this... KG, Duncan, Shaq are clearly better than Kobe... there is no way hes the top player in the L...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "olskoolFunktitude":</div><div class="quote_post">great point. duncan is the mvp. and the lakers mvp is shaq. if kobes better than shaq than why did they go 2-10 when shaq qwas out?</div> the team is built around shaq, if you build the team around kobe's skills then they would not be 2-10. and let's not forget rick fox and mark madsen missed the beginning of the season as well. you cannot base kobe's success on just 12 games. this guy is the best player in the league and has been clutch in huge situations. he has shaq, so what? having shaq on the team shouldn't take anything away from kobe's abilities. if anything it shows he's an even greater player because he realizes shaq is the dominant player in the league and success for the current laker squad goes through the big fella. he has put aside his ego and has learned to play and adapt to another superstar. there are not many other players in the league who can claim that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "shapecity":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "olskoolFunktitude":</div><div class="quote_post">great point. duncan is the mvp. and the lakers mvp is shaq. if kobes better than shaq than why did they go 2-10 when shaq qwas out?</div> the team is built around shaq, if you build the team around kobe's skills then they would not be 2-10. and let's not forget rick fox and mark madsen missed the beginning of the season as well. you cannot base kobe's success on just 12 games. this guy is the best player in the league and has been clutch in huge situations. he has shaq, so what? having shaq on the team shouldn't take anything away from kobe's abilities. if anything it shows he's an even greater player because he realizes shaq is the dominant player in the league and success for the current laker squad goes through the big fella. he has put aside his ego and has learned to play and adapt to another superstar. there are not many other players in the league who can claim that.</div> Then why does he wont his own team. if the lakers think he would leave they should trade him for t-mac but i doubt that would happen.
hes not the best clutch polayer in the league or at his position or on his team and hes not the best player in the league and argueably at his position and certainly on his team
Havin Shaq benefits Kobe is so many ways... he is not the main threat opposing teams think about... Shaq is the one who takes all the double teams and Shaq is the one who gains most of the attention... also the cast around the lakers is probably the worst scoring supporting cast on a championship teams... Kobe has the best of both worlds when it comes to statistic... PLUS, this kid always has the referees on his side lookin out for him... dont believe me... please watch Game 3, 2003, Minnesota Timberwolves vs LA Lakers, Round 1...
he's not the best clutch player he's not the best passer he's not the most dominant player he's not the best rebounder he's not the best scorer however kobe excels in each of those categories, even though he may not be the best in any particular category, he still a force in each one. j-mac when has kobe said he ever wanted his own team? he wants to win, and he wants to win with shaq. the reason why he didn't extend his contract is because he wants to see what the lakers plan on doing in the future before he signs on long term. 1. is phil going to be around? 2. is shaq going to work hard in the off-season and not retire? 3. are the lakers going to make the moves to improve the team? these are all valid reasons for him to not sign yet. if i were kobe i would do the exact same thing. he is commited to winning and he just wants to make sure the franchise is going to be commited, too. purehoops - having shaq does help kobe in many ways. he takes a lot of pressure off kobe and the rest of the team. but i don't see how this makes kobe any less of a player. kobe is talented and has an all around game. he has improved every season and continues to build his arsenal of offensive moves. he has extended his shooting range and is now a consistent 3point shooter. during the end of the season he mastered his pump fake to draw the foul and still hit the jumper. he can create his own shot and create for his teammates, he can defend and takes pride in it, and he can finish in so many ways. he has the fade away shot, he has the jab step, he has IT ALL. he is better than shaq and duncan, but don't confuse being better with being dominating. he is better in so many ways compared to those 2. shaq and duncan are more dominating, but it is because of their size advantage over kobe. put with all things being equal including size, kobe is far more skilled than either player. he's better than t-mac because he is a better defender and has the credentials of winning championships. and it doesn't matter if shaq is a big part of the rings or not. the point is kobe was a huge contributor for obtaining the rings, especially the first one. he single handedly defeated the pacers in the overtime periods and in the 4th quarter of those games. he is one of the best at closing out games offensively and defensively. of course it's a debatable topic, but i think i've argued my point on why i feel he is the best player in the league right now.
hes not the best all around player in the league though. KG and Duncan both more well rounded. and u could certainly agrue the case for kidd tmac and pierce
i forgot the ref comment. usually the better players in the league get away with a lot more than most players. it has always been like that and it's out of kobe's control how they call games. the way a ref calls a game has nothing to do with his talents. it might help his stats, but i usually look past the stats when determining who is the better player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "olskoolFunktitude":</div><div class="quote_post">hes not the best all around player in the league though. KG and Duncan both more well rounded. and u could certainly agrue the case for kidd tmac and pierce</div> kg - kobe has more range and is better at creating his own shot, better passer, too duncan - read above and add duncan is a horrible ft shooter kidd - kobe is far more talented at scoring than kidd tmac - kobe is a better defender pierce - kobe smokes him in any category including shooting
kobe cant give as good a rebounce of rebounds scoring defense as td and kg Kidd - better all around. constand trippple double threat and makes the players around him better as opposed to the other way aorund tmac - kobe aint that much better a defender and tmac is just plain better scorer and rebounder u could argue Pierce - Kpbe doesnt smoke him in rebounds, 3s (ecxept the first half of 02-03) defense, or clutch play
