I think that Jason Williams of the Memphis Grizzlies is vastly overrated. He has improved greatly since his days in Sacramento. When Williams was a King he got a lot of television time and he established himself as a wild kid who turned the ball over too often. Since he has made the move to Memphis, Williams has toned down his game, matured, and improved in the areas where improvement was needed. I don't think that people relize this since he is seldomly on television anymore. This season he was second in the league in assists and second in the league in assists/turnover ratio. I think that is very impressive for anyone, not to mention someone playing on the Memphis Grizzlies. Imagine how hard it would be to get nine assists every night when your teammates are Robert Archibald and Czezry Trybanski. As if this wasn't enough, Williams averages over twelve points a game. I am not saying that he is better than any of the other players that were listed (although I do believe that he is the 4th best PG in the league), but I do believe that he is more underrated than any of the other players that were listed.
u really underrate kmart ol skool, he's good, but not at jamison's standards yet. he will be a 20 10 guy in this league.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">no way kenyon martin is better all around than AJ. not a coach in the league will tell u that.</div> Wow you really are delusional when it comes to Kenyon. How can someone who is a better passer, better rebounder, and far better defender not be better all-around? I'm pretty positive a majority of coaches would agree with that. Also, since I have already stated that this isn't the place to argue about Kenyon I'm not going to post about him anymore unless it's in the context of the thread, which is naming underrated players.
Besides Williams I also think that the following players are underrated - Dirk Nowitzki Steve Nash Jason Kidd Eric Piatkowski Brent Barry Zach Randolph Mateen Cleaves Keyon Dooling
actually i give kmart all the credit he deserves. He;s a great one on one defender and a great dunker. but he's one of the most overrated players in the league in the last ten years. he'll have to be a 17 and 9 guy before he can be a 20 19 and guy and im not sure hes ognna do that. he's not a good enough rebounder or scorer for twenty ten. if kidd is injured or traded he'll be a 13 and 8 guy. not all star caliber and certainly not worth 87 milllion dollars. he's never taken over a game or carried his team for any length of time like the real stars do.
Kidd doesnt get quite enough mention though as much as he gets. without him the Nets are a last place team and people like kenyon martin dont even get the numbers they get. im not the one who's dullusional here. if theres one thing i can say bout mysself im a very level headed basketball fan. i give people the credit they deserve and dont get cuaght up in hype and let myself think players are better than they are. the fact is. jamison and kmart are very close in passing, rebounding and blocking. but jamison is a much MUCH better scorer and thats what makes him a star and kmart a overglorifeid roleplayer. jamison can take over a game. kmart cant. if u think kenyone martin is better than real stars like antawn jamison youre dillusional and overrating kenyon matin dramatically
allnet ive noticed u laugh at your own jokes cause no one else does. when have I ever not given kmart his just credit. i say hes a great dunker and one on one defender. what more do u want? u want me to lie and say hes a FORCE?? that he carrys his team and can take over a game and deserves money like real stars??
You think calling him a great dunker is giving him credit? most NBA players at his height are....he is a soild scorer..and was the one of the main reason why nets got so far..he isn't worth close to 87 million..but he is still a good young player that improved as the year went on...i would rather have him on my team than jamison <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">allnet ive noticed u laugh at your own jokes cause no one else does</div> i put the laughing emotion because i was joking and is funny...no one else does? big woop...this is a message board..
damn people... yall forgetting one man! the most underated player in the league! hes a point guard career averages of 16pts 6 assists 1.2 steals has 2 championship rings last season averaged 20 points and 6 assists its SAM CASSEL and u watch him take the twolves on his shoulders this year, he has the experience and the game to take the young wolves all the way! for mine the most underated player gotta b cassel!
i dont see how u can call kmart a "solid" scorer. he scores almost 19 pts per game but more than 50% of those points he scores are off dunks. out of the other 50% of the points he scores, most are off great passes from kidd that lead to easy buckets. kmart is not a good shooter either. his free throw % is slightly under 70. his feild goal % is around 43. this is a bad % for power forwards, especially ones that get such a large # of their pts off dunks. b4 kidd came to new jersey kmart was a disappointment offensively. although i agree upon the points made based on his excellent defensive play, i must say though, kmart is not a good offensive player.
Eric Snow- This guy gets no recognition. He is often assigned to the best perimeter scorer. He is often outsized, but plays good defense. A true leader, and is vastly underrated. Brent Barry- Most people think he is just some scrub/role player. But he is more. Much more. He plays whatever positon needed, and does well. Can shoot, pass, defend....... Very good all around player and is often overlooked on a team with Rashard Lewis and Ray Allen. Donyell Marshall- Call me a homer, but he gets no recognition. When people look at Chicago, they think of the young guys like Curry, Crawford, and Chandler. What people fail to realize is Marshall almost averaged a double double and was a consistent player. Lucious Harris- A solid player that comes off the bench. Most people overlook him when they play NJ, and he can make teams pay. He can hit the outside shot, plays solid defense, and more importantly, NJ doesn't loose much when he is on the court(and Kittles on the bench). Sam Cassell- Was snubbed of an all star birth a few years ago. And he is signed at a great price. Consistantly one of the better PGs in the league, but rarely mentioned by many. Eduardo Najera- Hustles. Rebounds. Defends. Is Dallas' glue guy. Does their dirty work. Kurt Thomas- No one ever mentions him either. Plays Center, even though he is a PF. Is NY's best frontcourt player as of now. Puts up good numbers, and can always be relied upon for positive contribution. Jamal Mashburn- No one mentions him either. Everyone mentions Pierce, McGrady, Iverson, Bryant.....but Mashburn is often overlooked. Good scorer. Not in the aforemention's level, but still a very good wing. Yes, I know I went over the 5 limit, but I feel like these are some of the often over looked players.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting txuonline:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont see how u can call kmart a "solid" scorer. he scores almost 19 pts per game but more than 50% of those points he scores are off dunks. out of the other 50% of the points he scores, most are off great passes from kidd that lead to easy buckets. kmart is not a good shooter either. his free throw % is slightly under 70. his feild goal % is around 43. this is a bad % for power forwards, especially ones that get such a large # of their pts off dunks. b4 kidd came to new jersey kmart was a disappointment offensively. although i agree upon the points made based on his excellent defensive play, i must say though, kmart is not a good offensive player.</div> Thats why i said soild..and not great....fact is people can say all they want how good or bad he would be without kidd..but he has kidd..and for the next 6 years...martin isn't a star yet nor doesh e deserve a big contract..but he fits the nets style of play..and jason kidd's style of play....he is key to their success anyways..please get back to the topic in hand...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Spartanfan2003:</div><div class="quote_post">Besides Williams I also think that the following players are underrated - Dirk Nowitzki Steve Nash Jason Kidd Eric Piatkowski Brent Barry Zach Randolph Mateen Cleaves Keyon Dooling</div> I agree...except I don't think JKidd is underrated.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats why i said soild..and not great....fact is people can say all they want how good or bad he would be without kidd..but he has kidd..and for the next 6 years...martin isn't a star yet nor doesh e deserve a big contract..but he fits the nets style of play..and jason kidd's style of play....he is key to their success anyways..please get back to the topic in hand...</div> k. i agree with ur points if that was they way u thought of it...he is solid, not great. anyway, i also think Bobby Jackson is underrated. he doesnt get much credit but he is still key to the kings sucess. also Jon Barry--one of the best shooters in the game currently.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting txuonline:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont see how u can call kmart a "solid" scorer. he scores almost 19 pts per game but more than 50% of those points he scores are off dunks. out of the other 50% of the points he scores, most are off great passes from kidd that lead to easy buckets. kmart is not a good shooter either. his free throw % is slightly under 70. his feild goal % is around 43. this is a bad % for power forwards, especially ones that get such a large # of their pts off dunks. b4 kidd came to new jersey kmart was a disappointment offensively. although i agree upon the points made based on his excellent defensive play, i must say though, kmart is not a good offensive player.</div> those r great points. kmart doesnt have great scoring numbers and the ones he has are largley due to the work of jason kidd. evry scout will tell u kmart isnt neaerly effective on his own. lucious harris is underrated so is mashburn i also think Walter McCarty can now be called underrated. for a long time he was a 12th man posing as a 6th-8th man but I think this year he proved him self as a solid NBA roleplayer and could be the same to a real contender if he played for one
