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well written except i completely disagree. the franchise is still only 8 yrs old...its a little early to be forcasting the end of their success. three years ago they were an inch from the conference finals...now they are done for good? a little pessemistic man. every team goes through highs and lows. there are two ways to look at the raptors as a franchise, and your looking at it as half empty...peronally i see good things in the future, as a raptor fan, i see things turning around from the past two seasons (barring any injuries)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">well written except i completely disagree. the franchise is still only 8 yrs old...its a little early to be forcasting the end of their success. three years ago they were an inch from the conference finals...now they are done for good? a little pessemistic man. every team goes through highs and lows. there are two ways to look at the raptors as a franchise, and your looking at it as half empty...peronally i see good things in the future, as a raptor fan, i see things turning around from the past two seasons (barring any injuries)</div> that is what all raptors fans think...they always think the raptors will get better every summer but it never happens. all my friends say that and i always disagree...when they finally realize that the raptors suk then they 4get about what i said...
txuonline, any team sucks without there franchise player. Its been like that all through the years of the NBA. I think you expect way to much from the youngest franchise in the NBA.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting vinsanity03:</div><div class="quote_post">txuonline, any team sucks without there franchise player. Its been like that all through the years of the NBA. I think you expect way to much from the youngest franchise in the NBA.</div> sure, well my point is not that they suk. it is that every1 thinks they r good but they shouldnt. and yeah...at least im happy some1 is finally admitting that the raptors r a bad team.
dude...the raptors are not that bad of a team, but when they set an nba record for most amount of man games lost due to injury in a season, they are going to have a bad year...last two years have been PLAGUED with injuries...before that, the raps were getting better every season. injuries are not a measurment of team quality...would the spurs be a shitty team if parker and duncan were injured? no...theyd be an injured team. its not fair to say a team sucks when you arent even in a position to make that judgement...the raptors never even played as a team last year, so how do you know they suck? as a partial team they suck, sure...ill admit that...but at least wait to see them play together as a team to judge whether they suck or not. maybe theyll rip it up...maybe they wont, but untill you see them play as a team, you cant say they suck because last time they played as a full team, they went to the eastern conference finals...member that?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">dude...the raptors are not that bad of a team, but when they set an nba record for most amount of man games lost due to injury in a season, they are going to have a bad year...last two years have been PLAGUED with injuries...before that, the raps were getting better every season. injuries are not a measurment of team quality...would the spurs be a shitty team if parker and duncan were injured? no...theyd be an injured team. its not fair to say a team sucks when you arent even in a position to make that judgement...the raptors never even played as a team last year, so how do you know they suck? as a partial team they suck, sure...ill admit that...but at least wait to see them play together as a team to judge whether they suck or not. maybe theyll rip it up...maybe they wont, but untill you see them play as a team, you cant say they suck because last time they played as a full team, they went to the eastern conference finals...member that?</div> um...not the eastern conference finals. the round b4 that. the bucks and sixers played in the eastern conference finals. anyway, the raptors got the the eastern conference semifinals bcuz they had players like oakley (who would push the care-about-nothing vince carter around) and players like dell curry and chris childs and keon clark. u said i cant judge an injured team and thats right. but too bad we never get a chance to judge them. too bad the r injured and will likely go through this again. the raptors obviously have some pretty bad trainer if the raptors have so many injuries. now dont b/s me and say it was a coinsidnece that so many players all got injured SEVERAL times in the season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting txuonline:</div><div class="quote_post">um...not the eastern conference finals. the round b4 that. the bucks and sixers played in the eastern conference finals. anyway, the raptors got the the eastern conference semifinals bcuz they had players like oakley (who would push the care-about-nothing vince carter around) and players like dell curry and chris childs and keon clark.</div> yea yea....i knew it was east conf. semis...just typin faster then im thinkin...happens all the time....as a raps fan, id hang my head in shame if i actually didnt know that. but anyways...we had a good team then yea...but its not like the team then was THAT much better than the one we got now...vochon is better then dell, rafer, lindsay are both better than chris childs...keon is gone, that sucks...but we got more offence in lammond murray, and that adds to our bench depth as well...either way, which ever team was better...the raps are still FAR from being extinct imo...a young franchise with a bright future BARRING injuries. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> u said i cant judge an injured team and thats right. but too bad we never get a chance to judge them. too bad the r injured and will likely go through this again. the raptors obviously have some pretty bad trainer if the raptors have so many injuries. now dont b/s me and say it was a coinsidnece that so many players all got injured SEVERAL times in the season.</div> why will we likely go though this again? thats a pretty bold statement considering we set an nba record last season. it wouldnt surprise me if AD gets hurt again this year...specially playing lots of time at center. vince im expecting to be healthy...same with lammond and alvin. yea...our trainer prolly is ****...but its also up to the individual players to train themselfs and keep in shape. look at mailman...how often was he injured? hardly ever...playing power forward in the west his whole career, and rarely missed games...thats cuz he was always in phenomenal shape, and the raps need to take good care of their bodys too, so that they can endure the grid of a whole season. even if it is mostly the fault of our trainer, that hardly says anything about the skill of the team. ill be happy to resurrect this thread when the raps make the playoffs and i post "I TOLD YOU SO" in huge letters (unless they get injured again)
