Mike or Kobe

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  1. Marion X

    Marion X JBB JustBBall Member

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    I saw the Wilt vs. Shaq thread but no Kobe vs Mike thread so who do y'all think is better. I would pick MJ anyday:

    1) MJ had less to work with yet he got 6 championships. Sure he had Scottie Pippen but Scottie is no Shaq. Mike had to carry the team even with the triangle.

    2) Mike led the league in scoring 10 times while also being a solid rebounder and assist man considering his position.

    3) Kobe is a ball hog. Considering he has Shaq, Fox, and Fisher, he should not have to shoot as much as he does. He is not as mentally in tune as Mike was. Mike knew when it was his time to take off and when it was time to sacrifice for the win

    4) Despite the argument, Kobe does not have the same drive as MJ. MJ's comptetivness is probably the greatest for any sports player in our century. He came out of retirement just to play.

    5) I just love MJ anyway, lol...
     
  2. olskoolfunktitude

    olskoolfunktitude JBB The Pig Pirate

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    absollutley. no one actually thinks kobe is in the same boat as Michael Jordan. its no contest. I think its insulting to Jordan to even debate it
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">absollutley. no one actually thinks kobe is in the same boat as Michael Jordan. its no contest. I think its insulting to Jordan to even debate it</div>

    Thats exactly what I think, its almost overrating kobe.
     
  4. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    I'm a huge Kobe fan, but he has a long way to go before I would even consider comparing him to the greatest player ever.
     
  5. HoopsCentral

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    kobe is no wheres close to mj.
     
  6. Ghost

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    This is a pointless thread.

    MJ all the way BABY
     
  7. VC rox

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    I was the guy who started the wilt vs shaq thread and the reason i didnt do kobe vs mj was pretty obvious, read above! MJ dominates Kobe
     
  8. the MDE

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    This thread is pointless. Kobe will be better eventually. Mark my words; shoot me if I'm wrong. If Kobe had bigger hands, he would be insane! [​IMG]

    "I just wanted to make sure Kobe didn't dominate me."
     
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    mj is the greatest player of all time and i doubt kobe would become better than him but u cant really make any of these comparisons until both players finish their careers.
     
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    If u give Kobe a chance to mature as a player in an atmosphere where he is the star he will eventually be better, but now it is MJ hands down!
     
  11. Ice

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    MJ without a doubt
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">its no contest. I think its insulting to Jordan to even debate it</div>
    I agree 100%. MJ all the way. I don't think Kobe will ever be better than MJ was.
     
  13. mike18946

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    Kobe for sure

    MJ is 40 and kobe 24..no brainer to me :P

    But seriously in their prime...jordan by a mile...G.O.A.T
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">This thread is pointless. Kobe will be better eventually. Mark my words; shoot me if I'm wrong. If Kobe had bigger hands, he would be insane! [​IMG]

    "I just wanted to make sure Kobe didn't dominate me."</div>

    Dude! Your gonna be shot!
     
  15. olskoolfunktitude

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">This thread is pointless. Kobe will be better eventually. Mark my words; shoot me if I'm wrong. If Kobe had bigger hands, he would be insane! [​IMG]

    "I just wanted to make sure Kobe didn't dominate me."</div>


    kobe will NEVER be as good as MJ. doesnt have the skills, determination, leadership, clutch abillity, ups or toughness that jordan had. Kobe just had the best season of his career at a very impressive 30 pts a game. By the time Jordan was 24 he had a 37 [​IMG] ppg season under his belt
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">kobe will NEVER be as good as MJ. doesnt have the skills, determination, leadership, clutch abillity, ups or toughness that jordan had. Kobe just had the best season of his career at a very impressive 30 pts a game. By the time Jordan was 24 he had a 37 [​IMG] ppg season under his belt</div>

    Also the fact MJ missed basically a whole season due to injury..65 games in fact and still improved the season after.
     
  17. Vintage

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    The things MJ has done in his career......

    Kobe is not in MJ's level. But then again, who is? Its not a knock on Kobe, its just a measure of how great MJ really was.
     
  18. olskoolfunktitude

    olskoolfunktitude JBB The Pig Pirate

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    u can't be the best of all time when youre not even the best of your time, the best of your team or (debatabley) the best at your position
     
  19. mike18946

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    These stats are quite amazing

    <div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'>YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG <br/> 84-85 CHI 82 82 38.3 .515 .173 .845 2.00 4.50 6.50 5.9 2.39 .84 3.55 3.50 28.2 <br/> 85-86 CHI 18 7 25.1 .457 .167 .840 1.30 2.30 3.60 2.9 2.06 1.17 2.50 2.60 22.7 <br/> 86-87 CHI 82 82 40.0 .482 .182 .857 2.00 3.20 5.20 4.6 2.88 1.52 3.32 2.90 37.1 <br/> 87-88 CHI 82 82 40.4 .535 .132 .841 1.70 3.80 5.50 5.9 3.16 1.60 3.07 3.30 35.0 <br/> 88-89 CHI 81 81 40.2 .538 .276 .850 1.80 6.20 8.00 8.0 2.89 .80 3.58 3.00 32.5 <br/> 89-90 CHI 82 82 39.0 .526 .376 .848 1.70 5.10 6.90 6.3 2.77 .66 3.01 2.90 33.6 <br/> 90-91 CHI 82 82 37.0 .539 .312 .851 1.40 4.60 6.00 5.5 2.72 1.01 2.46 2.80 31.5 <br/> 91-92 CHI 80 80 38.8 .519 .270 .832 1.10 5.30 6.40 6.1 2.28 .94 2.50 2.50 30.1 <br/> 92-93 CHI 78 78 39.3 .495 .352 .837 1.70 5.00 6.70 5.5 2.83 .78 2.65 2.40 32.6 <br/> 94-95 CHI 17 17 39.3 .411 .500 .801 1.50 5.40 6.90 5.3 1.76 .76 2.06 2.80 26.9 <br/> 95-96 CHI 82 82 37.7 .495 .427 .834 1.80 4.80 6.60 4.3 2.20 .51 2.40 2.40 30.4 <br/> 96-97 CHI 82 82 37.9 .486 .374 .833 1.40 4.50 5.90 4.3 1.71 .54 2.02 1.90 29.6 <br/> 97-98 CHI 82 82 38.8 .465 .238 .784 1.60 4.20 5.80 3.5 1.72 .55 2.26 1.80 28.7 <br/> 01-02 WAS 60 53 34.9 .416 .189 .790 .80 4.80 5.70 5.2 1.42 .43 2.70 2.00 22.9 <br/> 02-03 WAS 82 67 37.0 .445 .291 .821 .90 5.20 6.10 3.8 1.50 .48 2.11 2.10 20.0 <br/> Career1,072 1,039 38.3 .497 .327 .835 1.60 4.70 6.20 5.3 2.35 .83 2.73 2.60 30.1 <br/> Playoff179 179 41.8 .487 .332 .828 1.70 4.70 6.40 5.7 2.10 .88 3.05 3.00 33.4 <br/> All-Star13 13 29.4 .472 .273 .750 1.70 3.00 4.70 4.2 2.85 .46 3.23 2.40 20.2 <br/></div>

    Mj averaged 28,6 and 5 in his ROOKIE season....not that far off what kobe did last season..amazing

    Jordan was infact out basically two seasons because on injury...which shows what a player he was by coming back from injuries both times...
     
  20. Ice

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    Kobe will NEVER be as talented as MJ. Its just insulting otherwise. MJ was a basketball god
     

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