Mike or Kobe

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  1. the MDE

    the MDE JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">One question

    Did you even watch the series? shaq got his ass handed to him.....the only thing that can stop shaq is the refs? hmmm...thats is why he is so good..the refs let him do whatever he want inside...elbow's in players faces...pushing the defender off by banging into them..this was the first year that the refs finally started calling fouls on him....Duncan guards shaq better than anyone...the best anyone can....</div>

    WRONG! Shaq constantly picked up offensive fouls and was limited by the refs. Rewatch game 1 and game 3. Shaq was hit with a TON of fouls..elbows in players' faces? If you had 4 guys hangin on your arms then I guarantee you would get sick of it and would throw them off.

    And just for your personal pleasure viewing, here are some examples:

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    Looks like at least 2 players are surrounding Shaq. Hacking, slapping, etc.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">WRONG! Shaq constantly picked up offensive fouls and was limited by the refs. Rewatch game 1 and game 3. Shaq was hit with a TON of fouls..elbows in players' faces? If you had 4 guys hangin on your arms then I guarantee you would get sick of it and would throw them off.</div>

    Because thats the first time in the playoffs the refs bothered to call fouls on him....he has got away with some much over the years it is crazy.
     
  3. the MDE

    the MDE JBB JustBBall Member

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    Yeah, okay, even though he doesn't even average the most free-throw attempts per game. You say he gets away with stuff, well, it's the other team that makes him shoot a ton of free throws by using the hack-a-Shaq..

    Didn't the Spurs shoot 9 more free-throws per game than the opposition in the playoffs?! That is insanely tragic..
     
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    olskoolfunktitude JBB The Pig Pirate

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    Quit Bellyaching. Shaq gets plenty of luv from the refs. Pierce DOES average the most free throws per game and he gets HAMMERED everytime way more than Shaq does. The Spurs averaged more free throws becasuse more of the games were played in their house and the refs in every game favored the whole team. that and the lakers just fouled more cuase they couldnt guard duncan and the spurs
     
  5. Ice

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    I AGREE WITH ALLNET! wow thats a first [​IMG] Duncan is the best player in the league and truely deserved to be the MVP.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">

    Didn't the Spurs shoot 9 more free-throws per game than the opposition in the playoffs?! That is insanely tragic..</div>

    Yea quite tragic..the tables have finally turned
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Looks like at least 2 players are surrounding Shaq. Hacking, slapping, etc.</div>

    In the second pic..i only see one player near shaq.. [​IMG]
     
  8. the MDE

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting airforce1s:</div><div class="quote_post">I AGREE WITH ALLNET! wow thats a first [​IMG] Duncan is the best player in the league and truely deserved to be the MVP.</div>

    What? I thought T-mac was the best?!

    Olskool- you say that Pierce gets hammered more than Shaq? LOL. What a joke. Shaq may dish out some blows, but he takes alot more than he gives,believe me. Watch some tape. [​IMG]
     
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    Tmac is my personal favorite, but the right player won MVP
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting airforce1s:</div><div class="quote_post">In the second pic..i only see one player near shaq.. [​IMG]</div>

    Actually I have seen that game and the player WAS hacking Shaq until Shaq broke free and threw it down. Think before you post.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting airforce1s:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea quite tragic..the tables have finally turned</div>

    What do you mean finally turned? The year before 03, in the WCF everybody said the Kings got cheated, even though they shot at least a couple more free-throws per game in the series vs.the Lakers...I can provide the math if you want..
     
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    Think before i post? How would i know if he was so called "hacked." Hes a big boy, he can handle it
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">What? I thought T-mac was the best?!

    Olskool- you say that Pierce gets hammered more than Shaq? LOL. What a joke. Shaq may dish out some blows, but he takes alot more than he gives,believe me. Watch some tape. [​IMG]</div>

    :wine: how many celtics games do u whatch throught the year. I whatch plenty of Lakers games. probably as many as you but I also whatch a lot of the celtics and Pierce gets MANHANDLED every trip to the basket. If Kobe got double teamed and smashed around like Pierce they would have identical numbers. Ive seen Pierce not get calls on plays where he lost teeth and thats no exageration. Shaq gets hammered almost as much as pierce but come on. He's also got a half a foot and about 150 pounds on Pierce to get him thru it even when he doesnt get the calls
     
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    Pierce does get attacked everytime he goes down the lane. For you to say he doesnt and shaq does is just insane! For one shaq just throws it down where as pierce actually uses fundamentals to get in the lane. He usually gets knocked down half the time when he drives to the basket too.
     
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    Boohoohoo! You guys have the most pointless argument here. You say just because Shaq is 7 feet tall that he should be able to take the hacking and blows..should that change the outcome of whether it is a foul or not? It's still a foul, no matter how big he is..

    That's like sayin that just because Kobe is a celeb he should automatically be innocent because he is "bigger" than the accuser..ya know?

    Oh my gosh, Pierce does not get hacked more than Shaq! LOL. Pierce is a perimeter player. Granted, he can drive and slash, but players that shoot outside don't get fouled as much as inside players. Especially don't get fouled as much as 7 footers that weigh 320lbs.
     
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    Take off your biased glasses off please...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting airforce1s:</div><div class="quote_post">Pierce does get attacked everytime he goes down the lane. For you to say he doesnt and shaq does is just insane! For one shaq just throws it down where as pierce actually uses fundamentals to get in the lane. He usually gets knocked down half the time when he drives to the basket too.</div>

    Ever heard of a flop? Shaq just sits there and throws it down. Yeah, true. But if you were 7 feet tall and had good passing skills and could rock any person's world, wouldn't you set up down low and just dunk over people?
     
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    Flop is Vlade Divac, you should know that. NOT pierce. Are we done here?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting airforce1s:</div><div class="quote_post">How would i know if he was so called "hacked." Hes a big boy, he can handle it</div>

    Uhh...sorry but it doesn't work that way. I don't think the rules say that you can't hit anyone but 7ft 300lb Centers. Nope, it says you can't hit ANYONE. But besides that, who do you think is doing the hitting anyway? Hmm...oh yeah Amare Stoudamire, Arvydas Sabonis, Kevin Willis, Zo, Ben Wallace, etc. Do you think those guys are strong? I do, and I think it would hurt no matter how big Shaq is. By your logic, Juan Dixon should not be allowed to be breathed on because he is so light and might get hurt. Right?
     
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    Never did i say the players cant handle it. I said shaq is a big boy and if he gets hacked he can just deal with it. Because he hacks players, and they hack him
     

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