<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">please explain to me how a guy who is double teams (usually by the center position), averages 6 asists, 23 pts and 13 brds makes it HARDER to play with... KG gets Rasho open looks and we all know KG is one of the best big men passers in the NBA... please explain to me how that comment is valid... (or is this another attempt to be funny )</div> ok....you're takin it the wrong way....i'm not sayin it's a bad thing....gosh calm ur ass down
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-MAC:</div><div class="quote_post">Is ben wallace going to play Power Foward this year since they have drako and elden campbell(sp?) now.</div> He barely ever started at center, only 3 times last year.
1)Shaq 2)Z 3)Yao (don't give me that hasn't proven anything crap) 4)Brad Miller 5)Jamaal Magloire 6)Brad Miller 7)Theo Ratliff 8)Brian Grant 9)Eddy Curry (will be MUCH higher next year) 10)Rasho Nesterovic 11)Kurt Thomas 12)Vlade Divac 13) (a borderline C/PF) Keon Clark 14)Lorenzen Wright 15)Adonal Foyle/Nene Hilario
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting abc:</div><div class="quote_post">1)Shaq 2)Z 3)Yao (don't give me that hasn't proven anything crap) 4)Brad Miller 5)Jamaal Magloire 6)Brad Miller 7)Theo Ratliff 8)Brian Grant 9)Eddy Curry (will be MUCH higher next year) 10)Rasho Nesterovic 11)Kurt Thomas 12)Vlade Divac 13) (a borderline C/PF) Keon Clark 14)Lorenzen Wright 15)Adonal Foyle/Nene Hilario</div> I find it quite funny how you leave Michael Olowokandi off your list... seriously thats very funny ...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">I find it quite funny how you leave Michael Olowokandi off your list... seriously thats very funny ...</div> You're the funny one. I hope KG kicks Olowokandi's ass this year if he acts like he did on the Clippers. Olowokandi is possibly the biggest cancer and the most overrated player in the league. He is also very selfish and only cares about the MONEY. I absolutely LOVED the "Kandi Sucks" chants through Staples Center while Kandi missed his one hand turn around hook shots.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting abc:</div><div class="quote_post"> He is also very selfish and only cares about the MONEY.</div> bauhahaha... maybe you want to rethink your answer when you say all he cares about it the money... heres a hint... compare how much he got in Minnesota to how much he could have got in Denver... the please rethink you retarded post... and get back to me...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">bauhahaha... maybe you want to rethink your answer when you say all he cares about it the money... heres a hint... compare how much he got in Minnesota to how much he could have got in Denver... the please rethink you retarded post... and get back to me...</div> Who would want to play in Denver anyways? They have no chance to win this year. Olowokandi got offered a lot of money by Minny AND they have a chance to win. Please, think of a constructive post before you flame or bash fellow posters. Get back to me after Olowokandi either gets his ass kicked by KG for his whining or he's being selfish and begins taking more shots than any of the other big offensive options. The only good thing about Kandi is his D. That's about it. Why would you want a top 5 defensive center that whines, is selfish, plays with no intensity, and has no heart?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting abc:</div><div class="quote_post">Who would want to play in Denver anyways? They have no chance to win this year. Olowokandi got offered a lot of money by Minny AND they have a chance to win. Please, think of a constructive post before you flame or bash fellow posters. Get back to me after Olowokandi either gets his ass kicked by KG for his whining or he's being selfish and begins taking more shots than any of the other big offensive options. The only good thing about Kandi is his D. That's about it. Why would you want a top 5 defensive center that whines, is selfish, and has no heart?</div> I dont think you understand the concept of being selfish and all is wanting is money... a player who wants money doesnt care about winning... all he wants is the money... Kandi was offered a nice amount of money ... Minnesota is payin him roughly abotu 5 mil a year... I gaurentee other teams would have paid him more so dont gimme that BS... he signed in Minny to win, not for the money... and right minded person would agree "after he gets his ass kicked by KG" ... wow ... I really havnt heard anythin more retarded than that before... Kandi will fair very well next to KG, he will get open shots, he will get easy buckets, somethin that made Rasho look good, and Kandi will do it better since hes more agressive and doesnt have as much cofidence issues... Right now defense is the only concern with Kandi... I dont think he will cause problems since the TWolves will be winning... the Clipps is a hell hole... easily a top 3 for worst team... everyone wants out of that hell hole and noone wanted it more than Kandi... I dont blame him, the fans suck, and the owner is even worse... yer reasons for him not being in the top 15 is because you dont like him... and your reason is flawed... when you say its because hes selfish and because Minny offered him a lot of money, your wrong... Kandi could have gotten more than 5 mil in other places but he picked WINNING over money...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont think you understand the concept of being selfish and all is wanting is money... a player who wants money doesnt care about winning... all he wants is the money... Kandi was offered a nice amount of money ... Minnesota is payin him roughly abotu 5 mil a year... I gaurentee other teams would have paid him more so dont gimme that BS... he signed in Minny to win, not for the money... and right minded person would agree "after he gets his ass kicked by KG" ... wow ... I really havnt heard anythin more retarded than that before... Kandi will fair very well next to KG, he will get open shots, he will get easy buckets, somethin that made Rasho look good, and Kandi will do it better since hes more agressive and doesnt have as much cofidence issues... Right now defense is the only concern with Kandi... I dont think he will cause problems since the TWolves will be winning... the Clipps is a hell hole... easily a top 3 for worst team... everyone wants out of that hell hole and noone wanted it more than Kandi... I dont blame him, the fans suck, and the owner is even worse... yer reasons for him not being in the top 15 is because you dont like him... and your reason is flawed... when you say its because hes selfish and because Minny offered him a lot of money, your wrong... Kandi could have gotten more than 5 mil in other places but he picked WINNING over money...</div> Good for Kandi that he left LA, because I know I'm happy. He could be a top 15 center, but this is PERSONAL PREFERENCE, and I put my reasons for him not appearing on my list. Of course he'll get easy points from people doubling up on KG. My reason for KG not liking Kandi is because Kandi's teammates have never liked him for his attitude or possibly because of another reason. Of course LAC has a horrible owner. Well at least he was until this offseason. DTS retained Maggette, a guy that plays with intensity, has potential, plays great D, and has leadership qualities. He even offered an offer sheet to Gilbert Arenas, but he decided to go to DC. 5 mil is overpaying in my book for a potential cancer. Maybe he'll break out of that shell, maybe not. But he has been a cancer his whole career ALA Danny Fortson, Sheed, ETC. If Minny gets their moneys worth, good for them. But I dislike Kandi and am very happy that he left LA. Of course many center-hungry teams would pay over 5 mil for Kandi. That would be a HUGE mistake though. They would be taking a chance on a guy that hasn't proved that he is a top 5 center yet, and may not ever become one if he doesn't change the whole way he looks at things. At least this post was constructive and made good reasons for disagreeing with me, but you still came at me with the "retarded" comments. How's it retarded? You can disagree with it, but how can someones opinion be "retarded"?
you see him as a cancer... I see him as a major upgrade for Rasho... I think sayin KG kickin his ass is retarded... nothin else in your posts... but the fact that KG is gunna "kick someones ass" just sounds dumb Also... you say 5 mil is overpaying... you need to look at some salaries... players are paid on potiental nowadays... and 5 mil a year is nothing compared to KGs 26 mil a year (not sayin Kandi deserves even half of it)... I will pay Kandi 5 mil a year for defensive efforts, 10-12 boards and 12-15 pts a night (since we have plenty of scoring options)...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">you see him as a cancer... I see him as a major upgrade for Rasho... I think sayin KG kickin his ass is retarded... nothin else in your posts... but the fact that KG is gunna "kick someones ass" just sounds dumb Also... you say 5 mil is overpaying... you need to look at some salaries... players are paid on potiental nowadays... and 5 mil a year is nothing compared to KGs 26 mil a year (not sayin Kandi deserves even half of it)... I will pay Kandi 5 mil a year for defensive efforts, 10-12 boards and 12-15 pts a night (since we have plenty of scoring options)...</div> Yeah, I think it's overpaying. Take it how you want to though, because I think about half the league (not including people still in their rookie contracts) are overpaid. I'm just saying KG is gonna kick his ass for effect, because he and Obinna Ezekie (or another guy with one of those typed of names) got into a scrap because of Kandi's piss poor attitude. I wouldn't be surprised though if Kandi gets into a fight with a TWolves during the next couple years though. Also, there's no way Kandi will average 10-12 RPG, but I wouldn't be surprised with the 12-15 PPG because of the doubles on KG, and Spree, Wally, Cassell, and Hudson all need to be covered also.
Don't think Kandi took less money because of good will. Kandi took less money because his agent was more concerned with getting Rasho more money than Kandi (yes they have the same agent). It was somewhat the agent's fault for Kandi not getting as much as he wanted. Kandi is also somewhat of a cancer with his negative attitude. He wants to go and prove HIMSELF first then whatever good comes out of it for the team is a bonus. He doesn't even really care for the game of basketball that much (read a SLAM interview he had a while back). That being said I'm still a fan just because he went to the University of Pacific (a college maybe about 20-30 minutes from where I live and a place I might go). On a more important note, why is Nene being said to be a center? He is a PF and nothing but a PF. Maybe cause Camby was hurt so much he was forced to play SOME center but the fact is that he is a PF.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting sunsfan1357:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't think Kandi took less money because of good will. Kandi took less money because his agent was more concerned with getting Rasho more money than Kandi (yes they have the same agent). It was somewhat the agent's fault for Kandi not getting as much as he wanted. Kandi is also somewhat of a cancer with his negative attitude. He wants to go and prove HIMSELF first then whatever good comes out of it for the team is a bonus. He doesn't even really care for the game of basketball that much (read a SLAM interview he had a while back). That being said I'm still a fan just because he went to the University of Pacific (a college maybe about 20-30 minutes from where I live and a place I might go). On a more important note, why is Nene being said to be a center? He is a PF and nothing but a PF. Maybe cause Camby was hurt so much he was forced to play SOME center but the fact is that he is a PF.</div> Thanks God somebody sees the light about Kandi. But on the subject of Hilario...Nene started 52 games at center, 1 at PF, and came off the bench for 27 games. Camby started six games at PF, 3 at center, and came off the bench for 20 games. Due to this, people probably think (myself included) that the Nugs future line-up will be: Hilario/Tskitishvilli/Carmelo/Rodney White/Andre Miller if they mantain this current roster. But the Nugz have lots of cap still, so they can sign a big FA next year to put in the back court with Dre or another big man.
Nene is a center in the Nuggets system, due to the lack of options that they have. Ideally, the Nuggets would like to keep him at PF, where he can really exploit teams with his combination of size, speed, and athleticism. But the Nuggets have no one else to turn to when Camby gets hurt. Thus, Nene is forced into the center position. Don't think the Nuggets don't want to acquire a center. They went after Kandi in FA. They were contemplating trading down for Pavel. I didn't think they would; but they were weighing there options more than some might think. Its not a knock on Nene, so much as they want him to be dominant. Nene has the potential to dominate opposing PFs. He can still be a very good player at C, but his better position is at PF. I wouldn't be surprised to see Denver draft a Center(Pavel- if his injuries check out) next year, for example. But they don't need to overpay/overreach for a center either. Skita has been bulking up. Denver might move Skita to the 4, which would ultimetly put Nene at the 5 as a result. A lot will depend on where Skita is more comfortable playing at (3 vs 4). At 7'1", he has the potential to play multiple frontcourt positions. Think Pau Gasol body type. Gasol can get away with some minutes at the 5, but is better situated at the 4. Skita is probably along those lines as well. He may even be more of a 3/4, like Dirk. Its hard to tell. One season isn't enough to guage where he is at. But one think Denver does have going for them is versatility. White- can play the 2/3 Anthony- can play the 2/3 Tskitishvili- can play the 3/4/5 Hilario- can play the 4/5
