Story <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">With roughly a month remaining before the start of training camp, the Sonics are still waiting to find out if restricted free agents Predrag Drobnjak and Reggie Evans will accept their qualifying offers or sign with other teams. Both players were tendered one-year offers. During negotiations with Evans' agent, Dan Fagen, the Sonics increased their offer to Evans with a multiyear deal that would pay more than his qualifying offer (valued at slightly more than $700,000). "We still haven't heard anything," Sonics general manager Rick Sund said. According to league sources, Evans has received little attention on the free-agent market. As a rookie last season, the 6-foot-8 power forward led the Sonics with 6.6 rebounds per game, but he struggled offensively and averaged 3.2 points. Drobnjak has drawn interest from Denver, and Portland has reportedly shown a desire to sign the 6-11 center who started 69 games and averaged 9.4 points and 3.9 rebounds. </div>
The Blazers and Nuggets are very interested in Drobnjak so I think a sign and trade will happen if Drobnjak ends up anywhere else but Seattle
reggie will stay, drob won't - drob needs to go into the east where he'd be a far more effective centre
Honesly, we don't need either. Evans is basically a black gap-toothed Mark Madsen. He shows hustle, but is an offensive liability. And unlike Madsen, Evans didn't have Shaq boxing-out for him. I swear, Drob is a sf stuck in a center's body. NO center has any business jacking up that many threes. If we had an inside post prescence we'd be instantly playoff-bound.
I agree the Sonics are better off with both of those players on other teams. The player who needs to step it up for them is Jerome James. He should a lot of potential prior to signing his 4.5M contract. He has the size to be effective in the league, but after his injury he has lost a lot of the aggressiveness he had. Hopefully he can regain some confidence and do the dirty intangibles on the inside to give the Sonics an intimidating presence to go alongside 'Shard. The Sonics might surprise a lot of teams this season if they can stay healthy. Last year they played well despite injuries to Booth, Vitaly, & James. Antonio Daniels was a nice pick up for them because he can play minutes at both guard spots. I still think they should have drafted a lot of players ahead of Collison, especially Lampe, he is an inside force who would've fit perfectly for them.
i disagree that the sonics are better off without evans - true, he may be an offensive liability, but in the western conference the one thing teams need is toughness, and thats one thing the sonics lack. with shard and ray allen and bones playing a lot of minutes, there is enough offense there, while collison is a decent prospect in terms of inside scoring, even if that isn't gonna happen overnight. bottom line is evans did a superb job last season, not only rebounding but frustrating players like garnett and tim duncan with his physical approach to defense
Sonics need Evans back..He was their best rebounder last season..and as a rookie looked impressive..Reminds me abit of Ben Wallace the way he works so hard and gets after the rebounds...so no they really need to keep this guy...Drobnjak looks like he is staying..As Denver have pretty much pulled out of the race to sign him...He will likely return to the Sonics...Seattle need both of these players to make the playoffs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">Sonics need Evans back..He was their best rebounder last season..and as a rookie looked impressive..Reminds me abit of Ben Wallace the way he works so hard and gets after the rebounds...so no they really need to keep this guy...Drobnjak looks like he is staying..As Denver have pretty much pulled out of the race to sign him...He will likely return to the Sonics...Seattle need both of these players to make the playoffs.</div> Ok? If you look at the stats for the Lakers, Madsen was probably their best rebounder......per 48 minutes. The only problem with players like Evans is that they don't play enough to have an effect. He's the type of guy that you waste timeouts on. One timeout, to bring him in to play D, and get the defensive board. Then another timeout to take him out (because you're on offense now), and put in a player who can score because the game is on the line. The only reason that Drobs #'s were better than James' were minutes. And BTW you never gave a reason for why we need Drob to make the playoffs. James have the post game that we need. And while I awknowledge Drob's ability to draw guys like Shaq out of the lane, the Sonics are a jump shooting team (even Rashard, which is inexcuseable) so that doesn't help much. Also, have you seen James guard Shaq? He did an excellent job!! The only time that Shaq got paint points was when he has already established position, and then received a lob. I say we deport Drob, and send Evans to the pistons (increasing their already superior D.
Sonics need drob to make the playoffs simpley because the scoring is needed...Sonics will be looking to make the post season so keeping as many players that were good for the team the year before is important....letting Drob go for nothing is not a wise decision... And that best rebounder per 48 miuntes is a load of rubbish to be honest....It never decides that they would be a great rebounder...Evans was actually the Sonics best rebounder....only just but he was.He is a rookie..that will improve that brings energy...Sonics need him back which will likely happen as I doubt Denver will overpay him...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">Sonics need drob to make the playoffs simpley because the scoring is needed...Sonics will be looking to make the post season so keeping as many players that were good for the team the year before is important....letting Drob go for nothing is not a wise decision... And that best rebounder per 48 miuntes is a load of rubbish to be honest....It never decides that they would be a great rebounder...Evans was actually the Sonics best rebounder....only just but he was.He is a rookie..that will improve that brings energy...Sonics need him back which will likely happen as I doubt Denver will overpay him...</div> Here is a site that you should get acquainted with www.nba.com :mrgreen: . Go there and you can look up stats for players, hopefully resulting in more intelligent posts. We need Drob for scoring??!! 10 ppg? James averaged half that.....in half the time! So if we double James minutes......(I'll give you a sec to figure out what I'm doing ) He'd get the same number of points that Drob got. Minus the ill-advised threes, and inconvenient fouling situations. Before we continue to discuss the Evans situation you should define what you mean by "best" rebounder. And for the record, my suggestion that we give these players away was sarcasm.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Here is a site that you should get acquainted with www.nba.com . Go there and you can look up stats for players, hopefully resulting in more intelligent posts.</div> Maybe you should watch your mouth rookie...More intelligent posts? what exactly here am I saying wrong? nothing is your answer... .Drob gets under 10 points per game not much..but thats important for a team that wants to make the playoffs.he is a shooter that isn't a good rebounder but you need a player that gives a team some kind of scoring as right now Sonics need that..As really only Allen and Lewis are the consistant scorers...You could count Barry I guess..who else can make up for Drob's points? James is so damn inconsistant...you can't depend on him every game..he needs to prove he can be consistant... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So if we double James minutes......(I'll give you a sec to figure out what I'm doing ) He'd get the same number of points that Drob got</div> If you know anything about the NBA you would know it just doesn't work like that... You telling me if Eddy Curry averaged 30 minutes a game his stats would go from 10 and 4..up to 25 and 10? hell no....
Rookie? Haha. Excuse me Mr. Moderator, I didn't realize that our posting status had anything to do with the validity of our posts!! Your Eddie Curry example is ridiculous. It's a lot easier to go from 5ppg to 10ppg (the difference is two shots and a free throw, genius), than it is to go from 10 ppg to 25ppg. If YOU knew anything about basketball (or math, or common sense in general) you'd have known that. Ok so James might not be consistant, is Drob always? Like I said earlier, he has no business shooting threes when he's playing the 5 (ESPECIALLY when he has Ray Allen and Brent Barry on his team). And you can't deny that He's not as good defensively as James (a point that I made earlier, but I guess you "didn't see it").
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Your Eddie Curry example is ridiculous. It's a lot easier to go from 5ppg to 10ppg (the difference is two shots and a free throw, genius), than it is to go from 10 ppg to 25ppg. If YOU knew anything about basketball (or math, or common sense in general) you'd have known that.</div> It's the same situation...You said more minutes James got he would get just as many as Drob did...which is not true...It just doesn't work like that...There is a reason why players don't get alot of minutes and some do.. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok so James might not be consistant, is Drob always? Like I said earlier, he has no business shooting threes when he's playing the 5 (ESPECIALLY when he has Ray Allen and Brent Barry on his team). And you can't deny that He's not as good defensively as James (a point that I made earlier, but I guess you "didn't see it").</div> I clearly said Drob is not a good rebunder...but is a good shooter..that gives the Sonics some offence....Even If James somehow gets the same as Drob does...You are still missing some scoring that was left by Drob.....and rebounding from Evans...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">It's the same situation...You said more minutes James got he would get just as many as Drob did...which is not true...It just doesn't work like that...There is a reason why players don't get alot of minutes and some do.. I clearly said Drob is not a good rebunder...but is a good shooter..that gives the Sonics some offence....Even If James somehow gets the same as Drob does...You are still missing some scoring that was left by Drob.....and rebounding from Evans...</div> You don't watch basketball at all do you? That is not at all true. Some players get more minutes than others not because they are better, but because coaches don't know how to manage a team. For example, Bobby Jackson started at pg while Bibby was injured. And Bjax had better stats (as a starter) than Bibby did. You just don't understand that gong for 10ppg to 25ppg is much harder than going from 5 to 10. If you don't get it then I can't explain it to you. BTW, what is 'offence'? Some stat I've never heard of? Or just your stupidity?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You don't watch basketball at all do you? That is not at all true. Some players get more minutes than others not because they are better, but because coaches don't know how to manage a team.</div> Don't take my comment the wrong way,He gets less minutes for a reason..being other players who fit his role on the team that play the same spot on the floor. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">For example, Bobby Jackson started at pg while Bibby was injured. And Bjax had better stats (as a starter) than Bibby did. You just don't understand that gong for 10ppg to 25ppg is much harder than going from 5 to 10. If you don't get it then I can't explain it to you.</div> Of course I get that..I was just using Curry an an example....Added minutes does not always mean an increase in points,rebounds e.t.c <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">BTW, what is 'offence'? Some stat I've never heard of? Or just your stupidity?</div> What do you think Offence means? scoring/making plays for others e.t.c...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">What do you think Offence means? scoring/making plays for others e.t.c...</div> You idiot!! I was making fun of the fact that it's spelled 'offense', not 'offence'. You didn't even get the fact that I was clowning on you, lol. You have got to be one of the dumbest people that I have ever come across, lol.
