<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">After 2 Games LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers 23 PPG, 8.5 APG, 9 RPG, 2.5 SPG, 0 BLK 41.5 MPG, 54.0 FG%, 14.3% 3P%, 50% FT%, 4.5 TOPG</div>You forgot to put thier record...0-2 Lebron no question is the leader in the ROY race. If he keeps this up, the Cavs should win some games this year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting grizzoistight:</div><div class="quote_post">Why dont people comment on lebrons .14 three point % or his 5 turnovers a game?? I mean yea ill give him praise.. but u can also point out the bad</div> You idiot. Last time I looked LeBron was shooting the ball a lot better than Carmelo. And on the subject of TO's, funny how you mention 'Bron's 5 a game but forgot to mention Carmelo had 8 against the Rockets today, being guarded by Jimmy Jackson. And the fact is no rookie, Carmelo included, is under nearly as much pressure as 'Bron simply because of his rep. Defenders are going to bring their game every night and make an extra special effort when playing on 'Bron, cos of all the hype he gets. That's one thing that is a big advantage for Carmelo, the spotlight isn't on him nearly as much.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sir Desmond:</div><div class="quote_post">You idiot. Last time I looked LeBron was shooting the ball a lot better than Carmelo. And on the subject of TO's, funny how you mention 'Bron's 5 a game but forgot to mention Carmelo had 8 against the Rockets today, being guarded by Jimmy Jackson. And the fact is no rookie, Carmelo included, is under nearly as much pressure as 'Bron simply because of his rep. Defenders are going to bring their game every night and make an extra special effort when playing on 'Bron, cos of all the hype he gets. That's one thing that is a big advantage for Carmelo, the spotlight isn't on him nearly as much.</div> I know Melo is struggling.. And i know he has more turnovers through 2 games!! I was just saying everyone is praising lebron.. and givin him the ROY after 2 games.. I dont care who was guarding melo.. Did u not watch the game.. he would blow by jim, and he had to then go by cato and ming.. thats a little tougher than scoring on voshkul and stoudamire IMO.. Its only 2 games i realize that, im just sick of already sick of hearing about lebron.. Well see what happens when carmelo plays lebron in a couple nights!! :thumbsup:
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post"> Andre Miller blows? He is a pretty good player..and a very good PG...He has improved the Nuggets...and I'm guessing by your comments you havn't seen the Nuggets this year.Melo is not the only good player on their team as much as you like to think so...Good role players with good vets....You are talking about pressure? Lebron is under more pressure than anyone in the NBA...He was the 1st pick alot of people expected big things and so far he has produced and showed everyone his talents against two excellent teams. Also the Cavs were on the road to the Kings and Suns..two are the toughest places to win in the NBA...The Nuggets were at home against the Spurs who were playing their 2nd game of a back to back..without injuried point guard Tony Parker...Anthony Carter also got injuried as well...You will struggle when both of your PG's are out of the game..</div> They have role players I KNOW ****!! Andre miller has improved the nuggets.. You know how many assits hes averaging so far through 2 games.. 2!!! All i was saying is lebron is on a better team and an easier conf.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting grizzoistight:</div><div class="quote_post">They have role players I KNOW ****!! Andre miller has improved the nuggets.. You know how many assits hes averaging so far through 2 games.. 2!!! All i was saying is lebron is on a better team and an easier conf.</div> They have good role players and some other real good talents...Nene can score inside...Lenard can give a team 15 a game..Jon Barry can shoot the ball with the best of them.Miller didn't get assists because it is real hard to get them when facing Duncan and Yao Ming inside..the Nuggets struggled from the field...Miller had to do more scoring...You would have a case if Miller had a only a few assists v bad teams but he had to face two very good teams.....Saying Cavs are better than Nuggets..is debatable.. Your logic is bad also..because the Cavs faced two very good teams on the ROAD in two of the toughest places to win in this league...Nuggets were at home for their first game...Cavs are yet to have that advantage.
I would have to agree with LeBron on this. LeBron has been playing like a veteran the past two games and his court vision is amazing. I still like Carmelo and I think he will fit fine with Denver, but I think he has to much pressure he dosen't want on him and this probably makes him nervous. LeBron on the other hand wants pressure on him and he plays better when there is.
I will honestly admit that I was one of the Lebron James doubters. I really didnt think he would come in and be able to make an impact right away. I was wrong by every stretch of the imagination. I really got to see Lebron for the first time in the NBA last night against the Suns. Not only were his stats amazing but his overall feel for the game was as well. Cudos to him for not feeling and acting like he had to be a one man team. I thought he would come in and try to do everything himself and I was pleasently mistaken. Besides shooting, I think he needs to work a little on control. A few times last night I saw him grab a board or pass then immeditely put the ball on the floor instead of taking his time and surveying the court. Those are my only beefs with him at the moment. Carmelo was my preseason pick as the Rookie of the Year. This guy is just a beast he is Mr. Fundamental and has all the intangibles necessary to be a special player in the league. Jim Jackson gave him fits last night however I was amazed at the maturity he showed as he didnt try to force to many things. He is one of the players that lets the game come to him. I havent seen Chris Bosh play yet, however his stats look very good. I am interested to see how he plays against the big men in the Western confrence. If Lebron keeps playing like he has been, these past two game, I dont see how he wont win the league Rookie of the Year Award.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nope, sorry I didnt catch the game. I was in the hospital. </div> Thats a pretty good reason.
Well Jarvis has scored double digits in all 3 games.. Melo has led his team to 2 wins over 2 playoff teams.. well bron on the other hand.. came back to reality tonight
8 points, 4 rebounds, and 6 assists is not a bad game. First off game matches Melo's after shooting 3-12. Big thing for Denver is they have players that actually love to play D.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">8 points, 4 rebounds, and 6 assists is not a bad game. First off game matches Melo's after shooting 3-12. Big thing for Denver is they have players that actually love to play D.</div> Thats to be expected. Most rookies have great games, and follow them with off nights. Inconsistancy is to be expected.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">8 points, 4 rebounds, and 6 assists is not a bad game. First off game matches Melo's after shooting 3-12. Big thing for Denver is they have players that actually love to play D.</div> Thats true denver has more vets, But cleveland has A LOT more scoring options.. But the game tonight for cleveland was an absolute joke!! People jumped on the lebron bandwagon way too quickly.. hes not a good shooter, he might have a lot of games with high assits, but his shooting will go down dramatically trust me, hes 1 from 8 from three so far this year.. i dont expect that % to change much AT ALL!!
Who are these people you are talking about, bandwagon jumopers? I don't see any of those people here on this board. Cleveland shot 48% tonight and are shooting about 46% on the season, combine that with not getting to the fould line and that means that they are scoring the basketball. The problem with the Cavs is turnovers, this team is in need of a vet point guard. Mark Jackson anybody? (still a jwillthefreak clone)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting grizzoistight:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats true denver has more vets, But cleveland has A LOT more scoring options.. But the game tonight for cleveland was an absolute joke!! People jumped on the lebron bandwagon way too quickly.. hes not a good shooter, he might have a lot of games with high assits, but his shooting will go down dramatically trust me, hes 1 from 8 from three so far this year.. i dont expect that % to change much AT ALL!!</div> You may think Cavs have more scoring options but the Nuggets have a much more balanced attack....Melo,Lenard,Camby,Miller,Anderson,Nene,Barry,White,Boykins and that other guy from brazil Cavs have a few good scorers but the Nuggets have a much better balence of attack. You also keep forgetting the Cavs have been on the road for their first 3 games.It's hard to beat Kings,Suns and Blazers when you are in their house..No one is jumping on the Lebron bandwagon...people are just giving him his props as everyone should do.You really need to stop hating on the guy..So what if his shooting goes go down..He is 18 years old for godsake!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting grizzoistight:</div><div class="quote_post">Well Jarvis has scored double digits in all 3 games.. Melo has led his team to 2 wins over 2 playoff teams.. well bron on the other hand.. came back to reality tonight</div> I disagree with that - Melo isn't 'leading' his team that way Bron is. Granted he had a good game against the Kings, but it wasn't him that got them over the line against San Antonio. Melo has the luxury of having vets around him, in particular Dre Miller who has a great ability to find people in the right positions to score, which is a big bonus for Melo. 'Bron has taken control from PG straight away, meaning to score he needs to create his own shots, whilst worrying about the 4 other guys on the court getting their shots too. That, IMO, is a much harder position than Melo is in.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">You may think Cavs have more scoring options but the Nuggets have a much more balanced attack....Melo,Lenard,Camby,Miller,Anderson,Nene,Barry,White,Boykins and that other guy from brazil Cavs have a few good scorers but the Nuggets have a much better balence of attack. You also keep forgetting the Cavs have been on the road for their first 3 games.It's hard to beat Kings,Suns and Blazers when you are in their house..No one is jumping on the Lebron bandwagon...people are just giving him his props as everyone should do.You really need to stop hating on the guy..So what if his shooting goes go down..He is 18 years old for godsake!</div> Im getting sick of yall saying melo has more help or what not.. Bron has boozer .. a more than average pf in the east, a center who started the all star game last year.. ricky davis a guy who can score 30 + a night easily.. and they got the celtics starting pg, who has playoff experience.. This isnt a new team bron is playing for these are basically the same guys from last year, the nuggets on the other hand have lost like 4 starters -- ( the only one who is back is nene and he is also in his second year) and the nuggets have also played tough teams spurs on the road vs the rockets and the kings .. The only stat which should matter was last year the nuggets won 17 games last year as well as the cavs.. so basically they were in the same boat coming into this year.. Plus cleveland is playing in the JV conf. If lebron is supposed to be the leader.. then he needs to take the blame for the teams performance, becuz they arent improving!!! Didnt michael jordan lead his team to the playoffs in his first year, with a bunch of scrubs?? Quit making excuses for him!!
You want to know what an excuse is? YOU. Your points are terrible, you are a pathetic waste of oxygen. LeBron has taken the blame if you would dare to even watch a pro game for the first time in your life. Did I not <font color="Red">warn</font> you last time? This is your last warning before actions take place.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">You want to know what an excuse is? YOU. Your points are terrible, you are a pathetic waste of oxygen. LeBron has taken the blame if you would dare to even watch a pro game for the first time in your life. Did I not <font color="Red">warn</font> you last time? This is your last warning before actions take place.</div> You seriously are the biggest homer ive ever seen :thumbsdow What point was terrible.. that lebron is 1 for 8 from three?? That his team so far has looked just as bad as they have the past couple years..??
