What's Missing?

Discussion in 'Toronto Raptors' started by How_High78, Nov 12, 2003.

  1. jbbFranchise

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kid Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">We need Bonzi Wells. If we had him he would force Curry out from starting. I hate Curry.</div>

    Yeah, thats all we need, a guy who shoots 35% and has no J [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting thefranchise3:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, thats all we need, a guy who shoots 35% and has no J [​IMG]</div>

    1. Its early in the season.
    2. Hes playing out of position.
    3. Hes shooting .363%
    4. His career FG% is .465%
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting InNETSweTrust:</div><div class="quote_post">i just hope VC won't get down with an injury when that happens...</div>

    Please don't temp the gods like that! I firmly believe that the Raptors are in for a successful turnaround that will last for quite some time. This is only the beginning.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kid Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">We need Bonzi Wells. If we had him he would force Curry out from starting. I hate Curry.</div>

    I think that Curry provides leadership that few people appreciate. The Raptors have bought into KO's system faster than I thought they would and Curry has to be a part of that IMO.
     
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    Finally someone knows how i feel when people say Vc can do it all by his self.There is no way in hell Vc can put up 50pts anight,the raptors need to stop trading players like keon Clark,and learn how to keep some help around for Vince.
     
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    [quote name='dj_premium_plus']the rasheed/bonzi trade would NEVER happen...im surprised to read it was even close to happening, its a huge rip off for portland, and would prolly put them in the lottery

    I disagree with this, PORTLAND talent wise would lose this deal, but leadership wise, with all the off court problems that the blazers have, this might help portland. Portland wants to change the "thug" attitude of their team. I would rather trade for Wallace (Zach Randolph is ready to takeover the PF position there), and Jeff Mcinnis and or Derek Anderson (They have Stoudemire, and DA is just sitting on the bench)for AD, MoPete, and a 2nd rounder, but remember, Wallace is like the 4th highest paid player in the league, raptors would probably have to throw in Bradley/Olojuwon's contract in the deal. I dont really like Bonzi's game at all, he is not a team player at all, he would be worse off for the raps. Raptors need the UNC reunion of Wallace/Carter.
     
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    raptors dont need the reunion of rasheed/vince, they need the reunion of antawn/vince. that would be GREAT for team chemistry, and antawn can play the 4 spot comfortably in the east. portland need to win, more then they need to loose their "image"...so i still say they would never do this deal...the proof is in the fact that they didnt do it, nuff said

    @ whoever said we need bonzi wells....ummm no. lol, we dont need bonzi...hes the same type of player vince is, cept not as good.

    antawn jamieson is the best fit i think...dont think the mavs would part with him so soon after trading for him though. would be nice though...id send AD and mo pete over for him in a heart beat
     
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    i agree with jamison more than I agreed with the wallace trade, but, this thread was regarding portland. I love jamison's game, but dallas wouldnt do the deal.
     
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    This thread wasn't regarding Portland. This thread was put up to talk about anything and everything missing for the Raptors and possible solutions. I'd LOVE to see Jamison in TO. BTW.
     
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    Michael Curry is underrated. He is a good veteran to have on a team, and is a great defender. Some teams would love to have him on their team.


    Anywho, they should trade AD for Eddie Jones. (Yes ive been sayin this over and over again.THEY SHOULD DO IT!)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">Michael Curry is underrated. He is a good veteran to have on a team, and is a great defender. Some teams would love to have him on their team.
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    [​IMG] Good one there,now that is funny

    Raptors fans are starting to hate Curry just as much as Detroit fans did...So glad to see him getting traded.There was always "trade curry threads" in nearly every other board I saw in Detroit.His defense is not what it used to be.He does not deserve anymore than 5 minutes on court per game..Honestly.
     
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    ^does he not provide good veteran experience?

    I agree with waht most are saying. We need a second scorer. Alvin has to get healthy. We shouldn't have signed bruosn(IMO) and signed somebody else. Maybe we can give alvin rest??, or rather even more playing time? he needs to get healthy and out of his funk..
     
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    for y'all who r saying Jamison will be a great fit .. blah blah ..

    The guy made it clear before that he doesn't wanna live in Toronto !!

    in the 1998 predraft ... he refused to work out for the raptors .. and told them to " don't bother and pick me .. cus I don't wanna play for u " ...

    and that's why GG traded him in the draft night for Vince and Cash .. and thank god he did !

    so .. I don't see him being a raptor unless Vince puts his nose in it !
     
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    I dont want Jamison unless we get rid of some of our ugly contracts.
     
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    I'd take him [​IMG] We're paying all sorts of people to do nothing (Dream, Lenny...are we still paying Butch?) so why not pay a guy who would score a few baskets?
     
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    The Raptors are missing everything. They?re missing a reliable center, a guard and 2 go to guy. The raptors need to overhaul their entire and build a new team around VC.
     
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    ^ It sort of looks that way doesn't it? Keep VC, Bosh and maybe the dog. The rest are all fair game as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    i'll second that. **** bring back Montross or we're SUNK lol
     
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    The Raptors are missing a leader. They have put a lot of faith in VC and were counting heavily on him to lead the team this season once he was healthy. However, they need to realize VC is not the leader they want him to be. He's a great player and scorer, but he does not have the attitude to lead a team. His attitude is to do his part and hopefully everyone else around me does their's and we should win. The Raptors need a take charge leader to close out games and keep the players motivated for all 4 quarters. When your team can only put up 60 points in a game and are getting blown out by 30, there is a lack of effort. The team is playing half ass this season because there is no leader. You don't win a close game against the Mavs, and then drop a game by 26 points to the Wizards the next night. The Raptors need a player like Earl Boykins or Darrell Armstrong. Someone who will get the spark going and someone who will take the ball at the end of the quarters and create plays. The Magic will not admit it, but when they made the decision to let Darrell go, they lost the heart of their team. He's a major reason the Hornets are off to a quick start and Baron Davis is having a monster season. The player I would go after is Avery Johnson if I were GG. Avery Johnson is old, but he is a floor general and wants to win. His energy and commitment would be infectious for the Raptors and he would have them amped every night.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The Raptors are missing a leader. They have put a lot of faith in VC and were counting heavily on him to lead the team this season once he was healthy. However, they need to realize VC is not the leader they want him to be. He's a great player and scorer, but he does not have the attitude to lead a team. His attitude is to do his part and hopefully everyone else around me does their's and we should win. The Raptors need a take charge leader to close out games and keep the players motivated for all 4 quarters. When your team can only put up 60 points in a game and are getting blown out by 30, there is a lack of effort. The team is playing half ass this season because there is no leader. You don't win a close game against the Mavs, and then drop a game by 26 points to the Wizards the next night. The Raptors need a player like Earl Boykins or Darrell Armstrong. Someone who will get the spark going and someone who will take the ball at the end of the quarters and create plays. The Magic will not admit it, but when they made the decision to let Darrell go, they lost the heart of their team. He's a major reason the Hornets are off to a quick start and Baron Davis is having a monster season. The player I would go after is Avery Johnson if I were GG. Avery Johnson is old, but he is a floor general and wants to win. His energy and commitment would be infectious for the Raptors and he would have them amped every night.</div>

    hmm...well said. i agree cept with adding avery to the team. i dont think we need another point guard who cant shoot. i agree avery is a floor general, but i just dont see him stepping into a raps locker room and taking over as leader of the team...antonio davis might have something to say about that. antonio is supposed to be our leader, but his offence is simply non existant this season. antonio used to be able to take the ball in the block and make things happen, defence's would collapse on him, now his post game has gone to sh.it and hes relying on his jumper and its not falling. lammond's old game hasnt come back to him, so we just have no secondary scoring. antonio can be our vocal leader, vince can be our all star/go to guy, we need secondary scoring, its that simple
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The Raptors are missing a leader. They have put a lot of faith in VC and were counting heavily on him to lead the team this season once he was healthy. However, they need to realize VC is not the leader they want him to be. He's a great player and scorer, but he does not have the attitude to lead a team. His attitude is to do his part and hopefully everyone else around me does their's and we should win. The Raptors need a take charge leader to close out games and keep the players motivated for all 4 quarters. When your team can only put up 60 points in a game and are getting blown out by 30, there is a lack of effort. The team is playing half ass this season because there is no leader. You don't win a close game against the Mavs, and then drop a game by 26 points to the Wizards the next night. The Raptors need a player like Earl Boykins or Darrell Armstrong. Someone who will get the spark going and someone who will take the ball at the end of the quarters and create plays. The Magic will not admit it, but when they made the decision to let Darrell go, they lost the heart of their team. He's a major reason the Hornets are off to a quick start and Baron Davis is having a monster season. The player I would go after is Avery Johnson if I were GG. Avery Johnson is old, but he is a floor general and wants to win. His energy and commitment would be infectious for the Raptors and he would have them amped every night.</div>


    Believe it or not .. that's why Michael Curry is for !
    LEADERSHIP .. and just LEADERSHIP !
     

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