Top 20 Players In The Nba As Of 22/11/03 these ballers are the best the world has to offer; injuries and prolonged cold streaks play a part: 1) Kevin Garnett 11) Ben Wallace 2) Allen Iverson 12) Chris Webber 3) Tim Duncan 13) Jermaine O'neal 4) Kobe Bryant 14) Vince Carter 5) Tracy Mcgrady 15) Steve Nash 6) Shaquille O'neal 16) Peja Stojakovic 7) Dirk Nowitzki 17) Stephon Marbury 8) Jason Kidd 18) Kenyon Martin 9) Baron Davis 19) Elton Brand 10) Paul Pierce 20) Zach Randolph Honourable Mentions- Mike Bibby, Antoine Walker,Brad Miller, Gary Payton, Young ballers who will blow up soon- Lebron James, Jay Williams, Carmelo Anthony, Dajuan Wagner, Chris Bosh, TJ Ford
i think u left Malone off the honorable mentions...he is doing awesome for us lakers this season...i dont think Tmac is better than shaq...Chris webber doesnt belong on that list...hsant played a game all year...MARTIN!!! all he does is dunk...i think on young ballers you forgot Ronald Murray
That is one horrible list. Lets see here, well, first and foremost, you should really say what the NBA has to offer, cause, yea, none of those players are from any other league or even college. Now, 2nd, let's see here, if injuries play a part, why is Webber up there at all, he probably won't play a game til next year, Vince Carter probably shouldn't be on there cause of all his previous injury problems, KMart isn't top 20 and I don't think Zach Randolph is quite yet either, both good young players, but, there are others better. Next, where the hell do you get off calling TMac better than Shaq. TMac has been very incositent all year and his team sucks right now. Shaq has been good all year and his team is the best in the west right now. Oh, and the injury thing, Elton Brand shouldn't be in there also right now. Umm...Jermaine should be higher than Wallace. He's a much better overall player. Wallace can defend and dunk, Jermaine can do all that and than some. Stephon, if his team wasn't struggling, I'd put him ahead of everyone from 16 up to 11. And, finally, WHERE IN THE HELL IS SHAWN MARION????? He's better than at least Randolph and Wallace in my opinion. Hell, you don't even have him on honorable mention, but, you have Walker and Miller. I don't see either of them standing 6'7" and able to go for 17 and grab 10 night in night out. Ok, my little rant is over now. I'm done.
Flip Murray has outplayed half the people on that list this year, he at least deserves a mention somewhere. TD should be #2 as well.
this list is bull sh!t ! Webber hasn't played a game yet Nowitzki, Kobe ain't that great this season ! Pierce ???? How come Baron Davis isn't in the top three ? how come Vince is 14th behind Kobe + Webber + Pierce Elton Brand before Zach Randolph ?! Flip Murray ain't good enough ? .... when people r gonna stop using dump threads to draw attention ? ..
eh.... i think the orders and featured players are not fair...and looks like he only left players of his favorites....some names that should be there aren't there...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jstoppa:</div><div class="quote_post">these ballers are the best the world has to offer; injuries and prolonged cold streaks play a part: 1) Kevin Garnett 11) Ben Wallace 2) Allen Iverson 12) Chris Webber 3) Tim Duncan 13) Jermaine O'neal 4) Kobe Bryant 14) Vince Carter 5) Tracy Mcgrady 15) Steve Nash 6) Shaquille O'neal 16) Peja Stojakovic 7) Dirk Nowitzki 17) Stephon Marbury 8) Jason Kidd 18) Kenyon Martin 9) Baron Davis 19) Elton Brand 10) Paul Pierce 20) Zach Randolph Honourable Mentions- Mike Bibby, Antoine Walker,Brad Miller, Gary Payton, </div> Sorry but wheres Steve Francis an Shawn Marion?
It's a weird list. If Randolph is in there, it means the list is based on this season, which should then have Diddy at number 2, Flip somewhere in there and Webber, Brand and K-Mart shouldn't be there. However if it's a list of the top 20 players in general, I think Franchise and Ray Allen deserve to be there ahead of the likes of Randolph and K-Mart. You have to establish consistent criteria. If Webber's in there, then Ray Allen should be too. If Randolph is in there, then Flip should be too based on this season.
Its a mistake to post a list based on your opinions because people will always have different opinions and bash yours.
If anyone is to make a list I think they should have Baron Davis number one and not too far behind they should have Andrei Kirilinko and Flip Murray (Yes, in the top 10). Also, I think that Emanuel Ginobili needs to fall into honorable mention. He's the only player in the league right now who is playing with a complete game other than Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">If anyone is to make a list I think they should have Baron Davis number one and not too far behind they should have Andrei Kirilinko and Flip Murray (Yes, in the top 10). Also, I think that Emanuel Ginobili needs to fall into honorable mention. He's the only player in the league right now who is playing with a complete game other than Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett.</div> Spot on, assuming it's a list based on this season. What I don't understand is how Elton Brand and Chris Webber are in there if it's based on this season, and how Zach Randolph is in and Ray Allen not if it's just an overall list.
If it is based on just this season alone Chauncey Billups should be on that list as well.He is playing the best basketball of his career in my opinion.Not only is he scoring well over 22 points per game but he is dishing out 6 assists a game along with shooting close to 48% from three-point land.While helping the Pistons to a 9-4 record. Billups v Davis tonight will be worth watching.
everyone has thier opinions and thats his...obviously he cant fit all of YOUR favourite players on that list....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">everyone has thier opinions and thats his...obviously he cant fit all of YOUR favourite players on that list....</div> You obviously haven't looked at the list. It's HORRIBLE. It's suppossed to be the top 20 players of the year I think, and, he's got players who haven't even touched the court on it. Plus, if it isn't of the year, where are people like the Franchise? So, it's not that we want our favs up there, it's just that it's a bad list overall.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">everyone has thier opinions and thats his...obviously he cant fit all of YOUR favourite players on that list....</div>I do not want my favorite players on there. I just want the right players on there. To not include Murray, Ginobili, and Kirilinko is pitiful.
my bad on that...i just read the full list and it actually is horrible Kobe's my fav player but he doesnt belong in that list this year (so far)
In regards to that list, i said injuries play a part, not the whole damn thing- Cwebb belongs in the spot he is, if healthy, hes good for top 7. Kobe is definitely a top 5, top 3 last year...oh and my bad for leavin out the franchise, put him at 11 and put randolph to H.M.- he will blow up this year
