<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">On Saturday, the Raptors obtained high-scoring swingman Jalen Rose in a six-player swap with the Chicago Bulls. Grunwald was almost forced to make the deal, given his team's offensive liabilities this season. And the word in the Raptors' camp is that the GM is not finished. The team now has a glut of perimeter players, and team sources indicate Grunwald is trying to engineer a deal that would land a front-line centre Toronto so desperately requires. Fourth-year swingman Morris Peterson, who will be a free agent after this season, is the player Grunwald is said to be dangling as bait.</div> http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/Articl...orts/TopStories This is interesting. They trade away their two best rebounding forwards(Davis and Williams) then hope to land a quality big man by using Morris Peterson as bait? This plan of theirs doesnt sound to "perfect" to me.
The best I feel they will get for Morris Peterson is either Othella Harrington or Michael Doleac.I don't see any teams offering any good inside player for Mo Pete.
Tyrone Hill just got released. He would be an ideal forward that could even give a couple of minutes at center for them off the bench. Sign him if you are the Raptors.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">Jerome James or Calvin Booth for Hakeem Olajouwon. The Sonics would love to free up some cap.</div>Hakeem was waived im sure so that means he cant be traded. How about Montross, Bradley, Peterson for Jerome James.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">You still own his contract KC</div>Yes but once a player is waived you cannot trade him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kid Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes but once a player is waived you cannot trade him.</div>However, you can trade his rights. (I may be wrong. I'll have to check.) Vintage is probably the most spot on, but what do you all think of this deal - Raptors Send: Hakeem Olojuwon Morris Petterson Grizzlies Send: Stromile Swift or Lorenzen Wright I don't know the terms of Olojuwon's contract so I am just assuming this would work capwise, but it helps out both teams. Memphis would get the salary cap to sign a big name free agent. Hmm, maybe like that guy, what's his name? Oh yeah, Kobe Bryant. It would also give the Raptors a legit big man for the time being (I would call Wright legit and athough I wouldn't call Stromile legit, he makes it as a Center in the West at 6-9 and apparently there is a high interest for him. Not to mention he is still a very young guy in his early twenties who has yet to reach his full potential).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">However, you can trade his rights. (I may be wrong. I'll have to check.)</div> Thank you Wave :mrgreen:
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">However, you can trade his rights. (I may be wrong. I'll have to check.) Vintage is probably the most spot on, but what do you all think of this deal - Raptors Send: Hakeem Olojuwon Morris Petterson Grizzlies Send: Stromile Swift or Lorenzen Wright I don't know the terms of Olojuwon's contract so I am just assuming this would work capwise, but it helps out both teams. Memphis would get the salary cap to sign a big name free agent. Hmm, maybe like that guy, what's his name? Oh yeah, Kobe Bryant. It would also give the Raptors a legit big man for the time being (I would call Wright legit and athough I wouldn't call Stromile legit, he makes it as a Center in the West at 6-9 and apparently there is a high interest for him. Not to mention he is still a very young guy in his early twenties who has yet to reach his full potential).</div> Grizzlies wouldn't do that. With Gooden gone, its ever more important for Stro to be a part of the Grizzlies future. Simply put, Memphis doesnt need more wings. I believe if anything should happen, it will be along the lines of Othella for Mo Pete, or Olajuwon for Booth/James.
sadly othella will prolly be the one comming over, but as quality big men are a comodity in the L, wed be lucky to get anything better then him. maybe we can steal battie away from boston...they were shopping him around earlier in the season and in the pre-season...maybe we could get somethin goin with boston mo pete bradely hakeem/montross contrack for tony battie 2nd round draft pick somethin like that?
You dont understand. If we could of Traded Hakeem it would of been him over Jerome Williams or we could of done a Davis and Hakeem for Rasheed. Once player is not on your roster you can not deal him. That is why we still have Montross so he can be a filler in a trade.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kid Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">You dont understand. If we could of Traded Hakeem it would of been him over Jerome Williams or we could of done a Davis and Hakeem for Rasheed. Once player is not on your roster you can not deal him. That is why we still have Montross so he can be a filler in a trade.</div> No, because Chicago would hae rejected a deal of Davis, Jeffries, and Olajuwon for Rose, Marshall, and Baxter. Yes, you can deal a playerr not on your roster. How come teams were interested in trading for Milos Vujanic? He wasn't on the NY roster, yet teams were still making offers. Or how about the big NY/Denver deal two years ago? Once you sign a rookie, they cannot be traded for 60 days I believe. So how did Nene and Marcus Camby get traded to Denver on draft day for Frank Williams and Antonio McDyess? Because they traded Marcus Camby and the RIGHTS TO NENE for Antonio McDyess and the RIGHTS TO FRANK WILLIAMS. You can trade rights. It happens. Once again, you are wrong(in this thread). And no way Portland would accepts Davis and the rights to Olajuwon for Rasheed. They were rumored to have rejected Davis and the 4th pick(which is by far a better offer than the one you posed). The reason being they didn't want to take on Davis' contract.
Correct, you can trade rights... But once you have waived someone you don't own his rights anymore, and thus the player becomes a free agent. So I don't think the Raps can trade Olajuwon anymore.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">Grizzlies wouldn't do that. With Gooden gone, its ever more important for Stro to be a part of the Grizzlies future. Simply put, Memphis doesnt need more wings. I believe if anything should happen, it will be along the lines of Othella for Mo Pete, or Olajuwon for Booth/James.</div>Although this is just a hypothetical trade, I strongly disagree. Lately, Lorenzen Wright and Stromile Swift have both had streaks where they would go from the main back-up Center to DNP (Coach's Decission) for no apparent reason other than they really have too much talent at Center to deal with. Losing Drew Gooden didn't hurt them a bit. Right now their main second rotation features Bo Outlaw at Power Forward and Lorenzen Wright at Center. Why not get rid of Swift if he is useless? His contract is expiring soon. The Grizzlies may not need wing-men right now, but they could use Olojuwon's contract more than they could use Stromile Swift.
Stromile Swift <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">Grizzlies wouldn't do that. With Gooden gone, its ever more important for Stro to be a part of the Grizzlies future. Simply put, Memphis doesnt need more wings. I believe if anything should happen, it will be along the lines of Othella for Mo Pete, or Olajuwon for Booth/James.</div> If the Rapters get Stromile Swift they will easily be one of the best teams in their division. Stromile would start at center and would have Chris Bosh right behind him. This would allow Bosh to play his real position. Stromile will put up 10pts a game and will have 8-10 rebounds a game. The Rapters lineup will look like this: PG Jalen Rose- PG Jalen Rose G Alvin Williams- G Vince Carter F Vince Carter- or - F Donyell Marshall PF Donyell Marshall- PF Chris Bosh C Stromile Swift- C Stromile Swift
I think getting Stromile Swift would be a great addition to the rapters. I agree with getting Swift, the Grizz don't need him. Check out the "Who should the Rapters trade for" topic, tell who you think they should get
