<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WhiteManCanJump:</div><div class="quote_post">well, its a shame that we cant find out what would end up working.. <font size="5"> IN MY OPINION</font> SHAQ might be the best pick for the "upcoming season" KG might be the best pick for a little bit down the road, 3 or 4 years LEBRON could be the best long-term pick but who knows, i guess we'll see what happens with the teams they are on now</div> Short but true. But KG is good for more than that. Come visit the Nets' boards sometimes.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lostmyluggage:</div><div class="quote_post">I think that Whitemancanjump's post clearly sums up this topic. Time to move on.</div> Says you... Since when do you end discussions or topics?
No disrespect to KG, TD, etc. but I'd like to see a team built around Kobe. Perhaps get a point-forward sidekick ala vintage Pippen and go for the championship without a dominating bigman ala the Bulls Dynasty. If Kobe has the right people on his team that would compliment his game, it'd be awesome as hell to watch. I also like the idea of building around Lebron...a team that was built around him would be exciting as hell to watch.
I could argue for taking either Tim Duncan or Kevin Garnett. With Duncan you get Mr. Fundamental. He does everything how it was to be done. He doesn't give you flash, he gives you consistancy and wins. You can count on him for 20 points, 10-12 rebounds, a few assists and a few blocks. He knows how to win and has lead his team to two NBA Championships. Kevin Garnett is the same way. He can give you 20 points, 10-12 rebounds a few assists and a few blocks a night. He is a more versatile player then Duncan is since he can play every postition(I would not want him at the point though). He is more flashy than Duncan and he does not have any rings. Overall it is very, very close. I will have to choose Duncan because fundamentals win you championships. KG is a very fundamental player however Duncan is the best in the league when it comes to fundamentals.
The most dominant player in the game, Shaq <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">who would it be? I would go with TD. He is the back-to-back MVP and has proved he can lead his team to a championship. He plays with heart and leads by example. I also like the idea of building a team around a "big man". Not only are they hard to come by, but TD may be the best.</div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">The most dominant player in the game, Shaq</div> no reasons why? Are you sure you would want to build a team around Shaq, who's unreliable these days, injury wise, and in hislow 30's.
Shaq, I don't think you could argue against him. He's still the most dominant player in the game. Low 30s, so what, he's still going to play at least another 6 years I'd think, unless injuries kill that. But, I'd still take him if I couldn't get some people. He can score at will under the hoop cause he's so strong and powerful, and, he's a good rebounder and his defensive game seems to be better this year.
i would take KG hands down.. shaq is getting older and he isnt IMPROVING. remember, kg is still getting better in every aspect of his game
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">no reasons why? Are you sure you would want to build a team around Shaq, who's unreliable these days, injury wise, and in hislow 30's.</div> Shaq is bar none the most dominant force in the nba. I can't find one person who can even come close to guarding him straight up. He's a great passer from the post and he has developed solid post moves. There is noone in the nba that can contest him at all, I still think he can score 30 a game, grab 12 boards, dish 3 assists and have at least 2 blocks a game if he needed to. Now his stats are down because he is surrounded by so much talent, but he is still the centre piece of the lakers. He is unguardable.
shaq has decent-at-best post moves and all of them end up with him knocking some 7 foot 3, 230 pound center to the ground as he dunks and almost rips down the backboard. imagine if he had a midrange shot, but no he is strictly low-post also, did anyone else see the experimental trapazoid lane in some college arenas? shaq wouldnt know what to do with an extra 2 feet from the basket
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WhiteManCanJump:</div><div class="quote_post">shaq has decent-at-best post moves and all of them end up with him knocking some 7 foot 3, 230 pound center to the ground as he dunks and almost rips down the backboard. imagine if he had a midrange shot, but no he is strictly low-post also, did anyone else see the experimental trapazoid lane in some college arenas? shaq wouldnt know what to do with an extra 2 feet from the basket</div> This is not about who is the most versatile, it is about who is the one player that you would want to build around. I agree with the talent of KG and TD and others but the fact is that the Lakers are building a team of 3 future hall of famers around someone many consider the most dominant force in the game of basketball(past and present) period....Shaq. Payton and Malone wouldn't come to LA if it was only Kobe playing, but they would come to LA if it was just Shaq without Kobe and that speaks volumes about his worth in the league. And it goes back to the point that there is noone in the league(KG, TD, or anyone else) who can take guard Shaq straight up. Name me one player in the league who can guard Shaq, or one team that can stop Shaq from getting what he wants when he wants it. I really don't see anyone that can do that. Even with that trapezoid defence(which noone has even tried and if it did then they were unsucessful at doing it), until someone legitamately stops Shaq then he is still the number one person that noone can really stop.
I will tell you who I would not pick.......STD. I hate STD, he is not as fundamentally sound as people think, and is extremely overrated. Duncan has an elite bank shot, and never shows emotion. Furthermore, he isn't flashy and never talks trash. Consequently, fans (and Shaq) have dubbed him as "The big fundamental). Since when does not being able to make a shot without using the backboard make someone fundamental. He didn't deserve the MVP.....either year. Kidd took a lottery team to the finals. KG put up MVP stats, and a good fight against the lakeshow. STD needs to go away (pun intended).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">I will tell you who I would not pick.......STD. I hate STD, he is not as fundamentally sound as people think, and is extremely overrated. Duncan has an elite bank shot, and never shows emotion. Furthermore, he isn't flashy and never talks trash. Consequently, fans (and Shaq) have dubbed him as "The big fundamental). Since when does not being able to make a shot without using the backboard make someone fundamental. He didn't deserve the MVP.....either year. Kidd took a lottery team to the finals. KG put up MVP stats, and a good fight against the lakeshow. STD needs to go away (pun intended).</div> Keyword: HATE(and you have the nerve to call be biased, lol) Just because you hate him doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to have a team built around him. You can't go wrong with either.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">Keyword: HATE(and you have the nerve to call be biased, lol) Just because you hate him doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to have a team built around him. You can't go wrong with either.</div> Please read my post again. I never said that he doesn't DESERVE to have a team built around him. I simply said that I would not choose him. You have a strange definition of biased.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Please read my post again. I never said that he doesn't DESERVE to have a team built around him. I simply said that I would not choose him. You have a strange definition of biased.</div> Your definition of biased is the same as mine. I never said anything like Sac shouldn't deserve to be called better than the Lakers. I said I hated them, and you said you hate TD, that's biased. I'm not trying to argue, I just want to point out that if your going to call people biased, don't be biased yourself. Because in your post, it sounds like the main reason you pick those other players over him to build a team around is because you HATE Duncan. I'll re-do the post for you so you can understand.... Just because you hate him doesn't mean those other players deserve to be in front of him. You can't go wrong with either.
I hate biting my tongue, but whatever. I quit, you win buddy. I am being biased, and hypocritical. Let's get this back on topic, who would you guys pick as a player to build a team around?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">I hate biting my tongue, but whatever. I quit, you win buddy. I am being biased, and hypocritical.</div> NOT. Purple & Gold... if had a biased pick, he would have picked Rasheed Wallace, Bonzi Wells or Zach Randolph, something along those lines. Get your definition of bias straight and stop trying to pick a particular members thread apart because he might have proved you wrong in another forum (or whatever).
