I'm tired of hubie new kind of comunism Watching the Grizzlies can become a nightmare if Hubie insists on it. He usually uses five subs in one or two quarters. It's just unbelievable that most of starting five never play more than 30 minutes per game. When you see that Earl Watson is averaging 20.6 mpg, you understand that it's got to be a problem. Just take the example of the Kings, Lakers and Mavericks. They are three teams with deep bench. However, their main guy averages around 37 mpg. Some subs can be understandable, but making a quarter with just bench players is not something that Memphis can afford. I think that only Battier, Wells and Swift should be used in the rotation. One thing I can't understand either is why Hubie wants to make Gasol a center. The guy haven't got the body to be in the paint fighting with Duncan, O'neal and other competition. Gasol is more a Nowitzki type of player. He's a good three shooter, and very quick for a seven footer but can't always be in the paint, his main advantage is that he can switch between. I have barely seen him shoot from three this season. And please, Hubie, use Mike Miller as a point guard and get rid of this joke of a player that Watson is.
Tidi, right now the main reason for Earl Watson playing is because of Jason Williams' injury and the main reason the backups have gotten so many minutes recently is because the Grizzlies are blowing out the other team when Hubie puts them in there. Although Brown uses a ten man rotation, he is careful about it. He wouldn't put Watson and Wright in the game when Memphis is losing. He only puts them in when they have the lead, and so far this plan is working. I am not sure why you think Gasol is a good shooter. I've followed him these past three years and he is far from a good shooter. He could have been a good shooter in Spain against somewhat weaker defense, but he's in the NBA now and he struggles to make a fifteen-footer. Also, Gasol hasn't really played Center since last season.
Hubie's done a great job, I wouldn't argue with success. I mean, why are you complaining after winning 4 consecutive games? And why you hating on Watson. He's doing a adequate job filling in for Williams. He's not tearing it up, but I mean if 3-0 as a starter isn't good enough for you, then I dont know what to say... Anyways, they can't play Miller at point guard too much because he won't be able defend the smaller guards. Agasint Cleveland, they had a big PG in LEbron, where he could match up. You really think Miller can contain a guy like Jason Kidd the way Watson did when they played the Nets? It's all about matchups...Don't hate on Hubie....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">Tidi, right now the main reason for Earl Watson playing is because of Jason Williams' injury .</div> That is just no true, if williams plays 29.2 mpg obviously someone had to play pg when he's in the bench and it was not miller at that time. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">and the main reason the backups have gotten so many minutes recently is because the Grizzlies are blowing out the other team when Hubie puts them in there. Although Brown uses a ten man rotation, he is careful about it. He wouldn't put Watson and Wright in the game when Memphis is losing. He only puts them in when they have the lead, and so far this plan is working.</div> Hubie use the rotation wining or loosing. The same guys plays the same minute regardless of the score. About Gasol being a very poor shooter, well did you actually see his stats, he's .464 this year in FG% and .429 on 3 so perhaps he is not as bad as You thought, but well you are the guy actually telling that we should trade him and make Posey our first offensive option. Posey a star scorer, that really cracks me up. And can you tell me what kind of a player could we have trading gasol with his salary. But as you seem to apreciate players who are not ghost in defense, well perhaps we should just leave williams on the bench make watson our pg, leave gasol on the bench also as he is of no use for the team and make swift our power forward, I'm pretty sure you love eastern conference games as people defend so well in those teams, it so sweet to watch a 66-74 type of game.
Hubie's system is working well, so why complain? The team is winning games and it is a direct result of his system. He emphasizes a team game rather than a game based around a few individuals. His starters are talented, but so are his backups.
Hubie Brown has to be one of the leading canidates for coach of the year...They've won 5 consecutive game, Hubie has got them playing team ball. Versus Portland, Earl Watson had 2 pts, 14 ast, 6 rbs, now those are pg numbers... Outlaw had 2 pts 10 rbs and 3 stls off the bench. Those numbers are perfect role player numbers. And of course, 5 different players scored double digits, 4 of them scored over 15 pts. The most important thing, they WON, and keep on doing so.
The team's top player (Gasol) is only playing 32.6mpg meaning he rests for more than a quarter per game. Your top player is well rested per game (meaning lesser chances of injury) and your team is winning. Why would anyone complain?
Brown is simply great.I was listening to the Blazers game on the radio which they mentioned about playing time.It easily helps the Grizzles as a team late in games when less deeper teams are in a real battle which is a close game Hubie can bring in fresh legs and not lose a beat.When you have guys like Watson,Bonzi Wells,Battier,Swift,Wright off the bench you shouldn't have to worry about tiredness at any stage of the game.Which is why I feel the Grizzles have been so successful at winning games in the 4th quarter.Sunday night's game was a prefect example.Grizzles just ran the Blazers off the court in that 4th quarter they just couldn't keep up.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">Hubie's system is working well, so why complain? The team is winning games and it is a direct result of his system. He emphasizes a team game rather than a game based around a few individuals. His starters are talented, but so are his backups.</div> I agree. What more would a Grizzlie fan want? A winning record or a spot in the cellar?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-DUB:</div><div class="quote_post">I Would Play J-dub 48 Min</div> That's why you're not and never will be an NBA coach.
Tell me what player in NBA plays 48min? I would want JWill to play 35 to 38 min a game. That would be perfect for him.
Hubie is a communist? Wow, I thought he was just an incredibly good 70 year old NBA coach. The guy is only a walking basketball encyclopedia who has taken essentially the same roster Sidney Lowe had to work with and molded them into a playoff contender. But I guess he's just the Carl Marx of the NBA. Shows how much I know. Really, what do you want Tidi? You want Pau Gasol at PF, which I would tend to agree with, but whatever Hubie is doing with him seems to be working. He's still playing 32 mpg, averaging 17 points and 8.5 boards, what more do you want?You also want Mike Miller at the point? That just wouldn't work man, Miller is a scorer, pure and simple. His position is on the wing, there is no way that he would be able to match up with other pg's in the west. I'm getting a very funny vision of right now of Gary Payton breaking poor Mike's ankles while breezing past him to the hole. Ha, ha. But seriously, that's not the answer. Earl Watson has put up some fairly decent numbers over the past 5 games, averaging 12.5 points, 8 assists, 4 boards, 2.5 steals and 1 block per. Jason Williams' season numbers: 11 ppg, 7 ast, 1 reb, 1.5 stls, 0 blks. When broken down to per 48: Watson 14 ppg, 10.5 ast, 5 reb, 3 stls. Williams: 18.5 ppg, 11.5 ast, 2 reb, 2 stls. That's not a big drop off in my opinion. Hubie coaches a team game, he couldn't care less about the numbers as long as the team is winning. If I was a Memphis fan, I would be thanking my lucky stars that Jerry West decided to save the franchise. Until he got there this team was floundering, and everyone laughed when he coaxed Hubie out of retirement to coach this team of young, inexperienced players. Since then, all Hubie has done is turn Jason Williams into a upper tier NBA point guard, (something many thought would never happen), along with turning the attitude of this team around 180 degrees. Don't sweat the minutes, just look at the results. As long as the wins continue to come, sit back, be greatful and enjoy the show. "Grizzlie basketball" is a term that is finally being taken seriously around the league. Players don't seem to be unhappy with their roles:http://www.gomemphis.com/mca/grizzlies/art...2516970,00.html
One more thing, Hubie has used this ten man rotation since the sixties when he coached the Kentucky Colonels. Artis Gilmore and Dan Issel never complained, so what gives you or any of the Grizzlies the right to think otherwise.
Thank you Wave for the added insight, it's very nice to know that there are others on this site who are aware of Artis Gilmore and Dan Issel, let alone the Kentucky Colonels! Excellent point.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting OgShowtime:</div><div class="quote_post">Thank you Wave for the added insight, it's very nice to know that there are others on this site who are aware of Artis Gilmore and Dan Issel, let alone the Kentucky Colonels! Excellent point.</div>I think most people who know about the game could recall Issel and Gilmore. Even youngsters such as myself can learn about the old greats of the game by watching television, reading books or magazines, and simply talking basketball with their elders who watched these players first-hand. A while back I read a book by Hubie Brown which was titled, "Hubie Brown on Basketball". I suggest that any of our members who enjoy reading check out a copy of that book. In the book, Hubie Brown goes over all of his ideas and concepts which you call 'nightmares', tidi.
You may be right, just doesn't seem like many young people these days are interested in the "old school" ballers. Not that I'm an old man, I'm not much older than most who post threads and replies on this sight, but It just seems to me that many do not know their basketball history. I grew up watching tapes of the ABA, reading books by Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem, Larry Bird, Magic, Connie Hawkins, etc. I'll have to check out that Hubie Brown book..Speaking of good literature, I also recommend the books on Wilt and Connie Hawkins specifically. Connie was such a great talent that didn't get his opportunity to shine in the NBA for many years due to a very unfortunate misunderstanding. For anyone who may be interested it's called "Foul", check it out if you're so inclined.
