2004 NBA All-Star Weekend

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  1. Observer

    Observer JBB JustBBall Member

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    What about LeBron?

    Another possibility for the Eastern Conference All-Start Team at forward: LeBron James. I don't think he's earned it, but the NBA is all about hype.

    I believe the coach of the All-Star Team picks the backups. The coach of the team with the best record in the conference gets the distinction. That could be Rick Carlisle, which might favor Artest; or it might be Tim Floyd or Larry Brown.
     
  2. jbbKing James

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Observer:</div><div class="quote_post">Another possibility for the Eastern Conference All-Start Team at forward: LeBron James. I don't think he's earned it, but the NBA is all about hype.</div>

    Bron is listed as a guard.

    What is "hype"? I am sick of hearing about it. Am 18 year old pulling 17, 7, and 6 (rounding) is not "earning it"?

    I am not saying he deserves it either, but those numbers are pretty sick for anybody to do (only Magic and O.Robertson have pulled off those numbers as rookies)
     
  3. Vintage

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sandman:</div><div class="quote_post">Bron is listed as a guard.

    What is "hype"? I am sick of hearing about it. Am 18 year old pulling 17, 7, and 6 (rounding) is not "earning it"?

    I am not saying he deserves it either, but those numbers are pretty sick for anybody to do (only Magic and O.Robertson have pulled off those numbers as rookies)</div>


    What did MJ post as a rookie.........one second, lemme check my sig :mrgreen:
     
  4. jbbKing James

    jbbKing James JBB Banned Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">What did MJ post as a rookie.........one second, lemme check my sig :mrgreen:</div>

    Minimum's across the board chief..I think you knew that though :mrgreen:
     
  5. DaKing

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    Baron Davis Snubbed in voting?

    BD the most exciting player THIS year is being snubbed by fans! Sure VC is electric and is more of a hosuehold name than BD but people should seriously do their research before voting. Im not saying VC isnt having an all star season (which he is) but BD should be starting with his performance this year.
     
  6. Purple N Gold

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DaKing:</div><div class="quote_post">BD the most exciting player THIS year is being snubbed by fans! Sure VC is electric and is more of a hosuehold name than BD but people should seriously do their research before voting. Im not saying VC isnt having an all star season (which he is) but BD should be starting with his performance this year.</div>

    Very true, Baron Davis should definetley be starting at the PG slot this year. But we all know what the All-Star game is about.
     
  7. MVPlaya

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    Yea he should be, I'm sure LeBron will get on this instead of Baron. Baron deserves this more than any other PG in the East...
     
  8. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    I do not believe Baron Davis should start. When Jason Kidd was having his MVP-worthy season he wasn't voted as a starter, and I was perfectly okay with that. The guys who are voted in are the guys who are the fan's favorite players. Right now Tracy McGrady and Allen Iverson are the fan's favorite players. The quality players who aren't always in commercials or on t.v. (like Kidd and Davis) still play good time in the All-Star game. They just don't start because the fans would rather see other players. Just being on the roster makes you an All-Star. Starting means nothing.
     
  9. Stockton

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    Baron Davis deserves to start the All Star game, but he wont because he doesn't have the fan base and it's the fans that make you start. The coaches will get him into the All Star game, but on the bench. But he'll still get a lot of minutes of the bench.
     
  10. MVPlaya

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">I do not believe Baron Davis should start. When Jason Kidd was having his MVP-worthy season he wasn't voted as a starter, and I was perfectly okay with that. The guys who are voted in are the guys who are the fan's favorite players. Right now Tracy McGrady and Allen Iverson are the fan's favorite players. The quality players who aren't always in commercials or on t.v. (like Kidd and Davis) still play good time in the All-Star game. They just don't start because the fans would rather see other players. Just being on the roster makes you an All-Star. Starting means nothing.</div>
    You don't think he should start just cuz someone else didn't get to?

    This thread says SNUBS. So you BELIEVE the he doesn't DESERVE to start?

    You sure?
     
  11. starman85

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    He might be subbed in fairly early too, which is what the East coaches always do when two "non-points" are voted in as starters. A couple years ago they had it easy when VC got hurt, cuz then they placed JKidd in as their option in the starting 5. Baron will probably be the first point off the bench this time, perhaps in the first five minutes.
     
  12. cross yo ova

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I do not believe Baron Davis should start. When Jason Kidd was having his MVP-worthy season he wasn't voted as a starter</div>

    Baron Davis is having an MVP season so far in the East.For me ,I dont think its a fair to say that Wave.Just because Jkidd didnt get it doesnt mean BDiddy should be treated the same because of Kidd.

    What can i say about Baron,Ranks #4 in the NBA in Points Per Game(23.6) Ranks #2 in the NBA in Assists Per Game(8.5) Ranks #1 in the NBA in Steals(67.0) and Ranks #2 in the NBA in Steals Per Game(2.91) +Ranks #1 in the NBA in Three-Point Field Goals Made(71.0)...This should earn him a spot as a starter.This guy is my most consistent player in the L.

    I also think starting means alot in Allstar games
     
  13. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">I do not believe Baron Davis should start. When Jason Kidd was having his MVP-worthy season he wasn't voted as a starter, and I was perfectly okay with that. The guys who are voted in are the guys who are the fan's favorite players. Right now Tracy McGrady and Allen Iverson are the fan's favorite players. The quality players who aren't always in commercials or on t.v. (like Kidd and Davis) still play good time in the All-Star game. They just don't start because the fans would rather see other players. Just being on the roster makes you an All-Star. Starting means nothing.</div>

    MVPlaya, Crossyoova, etc. please read the bold part. That was the point of my post. Jason Kidd was a simple comparison. I didn't say anywhere in that post that he should bench because Jason Kidd benched.

    Let me reiterate this. If the season ended today then Baron Davis would deserve the MVP award. However, Baron Davis does not deserve to start in the All-Star game if the fans do not vote him in. Being deserving of a starting spot on the All-Star roster does not mean that a player is good. It means that the fans want to see that player start. It is a popularity contest and right now Baron Davis does not have the popularity thus he does not deserve it.
     
  14. cross yo ova

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    Why do you think he does not deserve it at the moment
     
  15. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting cross yo ova:</div><div class="quote_post">Why do you think he does not deserve it at the moment</div>Read my posts. I explain everything. It just takes one minute. I really dumbed it down for you. Before you comment on my posts, read them.
     
  16. Purple N Gold

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    Might have already been posted, but I'll post it anyway.

    Link to NBA All Star Voting so far...

    All Star Voting

    Just a joke how this plays out, one thing I'll point out is that Ray Allen is top 10 in West guards voting. Emanuel Giniboli is getting more votes than Marbury [​IMG] . LeBron James is ahead in voting of a top 3 MVP candidate. Scottie Pippen is #4 in votes for East fowards [​IMG] . Dampier isn't even getting any attention, not even in the top 5 for West Centers [​IMG] . And the laugh of the day, Chris Webber is leading Peja in votes [​IMG] [​IMG] . That is just wrong, Peja goes and plays his heart out leading the Kings to an awesome record while Webber is sitting watching him in on the bench, and still gets more props! Things like this simply ruin the All Star game, maybe the fans shouldn't get the chance to vote! [​IMG] Because at this rate all it looks like is fake basketball fans just clicking names.
     
  17. cross yo ova

    cross yo ova JBB Banned Member

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    EAST FORWARDS


    J. O'Neal
    Vince Carter (Tor.) 696,652
    Jermaine O'Neal (Ind.) 542,673
    Kenyon Martin (N.J.) 208,081
    Scottie Pippen (Chi.) 116,143
    Ron Artest (Ind.) 111,838
    Richard Jefferson (N.J.) 68,476
    Carlos Boozer (Cle.) 64,680
    Shareef Abdur-Rahim (Atl.) 64,607
    Toni Kukoc (Mil.) 51,648
    Tyson Chandler (Chi.) 44,264

    EAST GUARDS


    Iverson
    Allen Iverson (Phi.) 566,713
    Tracy McGrady (Orl.) 417,529
    Jason Kidd (N.J.) 359,000
    LeBron James (Cle.) 242,695
    Baron Davis (N.O.) 181,828
    Paul Pierce (Bos.) 89,382
    Gilbert Arenas (Was.) 62,053
    Chauncey Billups (Det.) 60,009
    Reggie Miller (Ind.) 53,844
    Ricky Davis (Cle.) 48,044

    EAST CENTERS


    Wallace
    Ben Wallace (Det.) 597,959
    Alonzo Mourning (N.J.) 156,455
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Cle.) 127,677
    Eddy Curry (Chi.) 54,974
    Antonio Davis (Chi.) 50,322


    WEST FORWARDS


    Garnett
    Kevin Garnett (Min.) 539,280
    Tim Duncan (S.A.) 515,009
    Dirk Nowitzki (Dal.) 198,804
    Karl Malone (LAL) 180,826
    Carmelo Anthony (Den.) 170,121
    Pau Gasol (Mem.) 132,686
    Chris Webber (Sac.) 121,270
    Peja Stojakovic (Sac.) 116,419
    Antoine Walker (Dal.) 82,938
    Amar? Stoudemire (Pho.) 61,502


    WEST GUARDS


    Bryant
    Kobe Bryant (LAL) 577,505
    Steve Francis (Hou.) 286,515
    Gary Payton (LAL) 247,880
    Steve Nash (Dal.) 189,512
    Emanuel Ginobili (S.A.) 176,048
    Stephon Marbury (Pho.) 142,604
    Mike Bibby (Sac.) 135,197
    Tony Parker (S.A.) 94,188
    Ray Allen (Sea.) 75,028
    Michael Finley (Dal.) 74,078


    WEST CENTERS


    S. O'Neal
    Shaquille O'Neal (LAL) 534,380
    Yao Ming (Hou.) 414,063
    Vlade Divac (Sac.) 62,701
    Brad Miller (Sac.) 51,410
    Radoslav Nesterovic (S.A.) 37,484


    Ye ,I know its very surprising,Big Ben has the staring spot locked,theres a good bit to go but you could name the AS team now and it will prob be the right one.
     
  18. cross yo ova

    cross yo ova JBB Banned Member

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    My Allstar team

    I know their is a good while to go but im willing to put a bet on that this will be the Allstar team,unless some players get injured this will be the starting teams.


    East
    Ben Wallace
    Allen Iverson
    Tracy McGrady
    Vince Carter
    Jermaine O'Neal

    West
    Shaquille O'Neal
    Kobe Bryant
    Steve Francis
    Kevin Garnett
    Tim Duncan

    There are some close calls but i think this will be the teams starting in Feb.
    Anyone agree?
     
  19. EasyBaller

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    East
    Ben Wallace
    Allen Iverson or Jason Kidd
    Tracy McGrady
    Vince Carter
    Jermaine O'Neal

    West
    Shaquille O'Neal
    Kobe Bryant
    Steve Francis
    Kevin Garnett
    Tim Duncan


    I sure think East should have a real point guard.........

    [​IMG]

    West look better this year than East...........but only God and Kobe will decide who will win [​IMG]
     
  20. MVPlaya

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    There are people who can match up with Kobe on the west... I see it as the front court is where everything will happen.

    Shaq Duncan and KG... lol that just sounds like a dream team.
     

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