Zo is going to have a kidney transplant surgery this Friday

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  1. Accord

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    Yea I saw this on ESPN earlier and best luck... hope everythin goes out perfect and the surgury will help his life.
     
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    If he recovers fully. 100%. Perfect Condition, I read hthat he could make a comeback(sorry if its posted in one of those articles..didnt bothre reading). i forget but i know another NBA player did that.
     
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    I am happy for him and his family. I wish him to a speedy recovery.

    BUT I gotta say this, no matter how much heat I take for my opinion.

    There are thousands of people waiting for kidney donors. It's a shame that those with the $$$ will get theirs first. I know, if you have the money you should be entitled to spend it how you see fit. But I feel bad for all the folks that have been waiting for a kidney and they still have to wait. It's like cutting in the front of the line. Nearly 8,000 people died in 2002 waiting in line.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I feel. Feel free to blast me now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinnyMack:</div><div class="quote_post">I am happy for him and his family. I wish him to a speedy recovery.

    BUT I gotta say this, no matter how much heat I take for my opinion.

    There are thousands of people waiting for kidney donors. It's a shame that those with the $$$ will get theirs first. I know, if you have the money you should be entitled to spend it how you see fit. But I feel bad for all the folks that have been waiting for a kidney and they still have to wait. It's like cutting in the front of the line. Nearly 8,000 people died in 2002 waiting in line.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I feel. Feel free to blast me now.

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    You are wrong in every sense, your opinion is flawed and based on false assumptions. The reason Zo had a kidney transplant this quickly is not because he is an NBA superstar or because he has millions of dollars, the reason is his cousin, a blood relative was a perfect match and donated one of his kidneys to Zo.

    All of those people on waiting lists and things of that sort did not have a blood relative that was a good candidate. If you need a kidney transplant, the first place you look is blood relatives such as brothers, sisters, parents, cousins, uncles, etc. and if there are no blood relatives that are good candidates, you are then placed on that long waiting list that you mentioned.

    Zo received no special treatment in this matter, he was treated the same as any of us regular folk would be.

    I lost someone very close to me that I loved because of renal kidney failure, so I know how it can be and how the system works.
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up Accord. I was a bit confused also, but that said it. I guys i've been watching to many movies where people always just go on the long list. lol
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Accord:</div><div class="quote_post">The reason Zo had a kidney transplant this quickly is not because he is an NBA superstar or because he has millions of dollars, the reason is his cousin, a blood relative was a perfect match and donated one of his kidneys to Zo. </div>

    Actually Accord, you are wrong, and Vinnymack is right. My friends and I have been discussing this, and it is ridiculous that an NBA player should be put above the millions of other sick people. YES he received the Kidney from a family member, BUT he also issued a statement thanking the many other people who OFFERED to give him one of their kidneys.

    Would some old guy needing a kidney have gotten this many offers? No. I see a problem with that.
     
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    Yea, Zo was very mature about it saying that he knows that there are a lot of other people who need a kidney just as bad as him, I'm just glad everything went well for the guy.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually Accord, you are wrong, and Vinnymack is right. My friends and I have been discussing this, and it is ridiculous that an NBA player should be put above the millions of other sick people. YES he received the Kidney from a family member, BUT he also issued a statement thanking the many other people who OFFERED to give him one of their kidneys.

    Would some old guy needing a kidney have gotten this many offers? No. I see a problem with that.</div>

    Well I would issue a statement too if I was him thanking them for offering their kidney. People are free to give their kidney's to who they want. That being said it is unfortunate that many people will offer their kidneys only to famous people and not to it for the everyday common folk. It is life and sometimes life isn't always fair.

    One good thing about this whole situation with Alonzo is that Kidney Awareness or whatever you want to call it, has gone considerably up.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Accord:</div><div class="quote_post">You are wrong in every sense, your opinion is flawed and based on false assumptions. The reason Zo had a kidney transplant this quickly is not because he is an NBA superstar or because he has millions of dollars, the reason is his cousin, a blood relative was a perfect match and donated one of his kidneys to Zo.

    I lost someone very close to me that I loved because of renal kidney failure, so I know how it can be and how the system works.</div>

    I am very sorry for your loss due to kidney failure and I appreciate your extended explaination on the issue.

    I still do agree with Trail_Blazer76 in that NBA players (professional athletes for that matter) do get preferential treatment in all facets of life. In life and death matters, medical matters, the rules should be administered equally. His cousin giving him that kidney was an awesome act of love (I hope) and it looks like things will work out for Zo.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually Accord, you are wrong, and Vinnymack is right. My friends and I have been discussing this, and it is ridiculous that an NBA player should be put above the millions of other sick people. YES he received the Kidney from a family member, BUT he also issued a statement thanking the many other people who OFFERED to give him one of their kidneys.

    Would some old guy needing a kidney have gotten this many offers? No. I see a problem with that.</div>

    An old guy most likely never would have received a kidney in the first place if he did not have any family members that were good candidates. The waiting list for kidneys does not necessarily go by "first come first serve" where you're just waiting in line, you are put onto the list based on age and how severely you need it. A child needing a kidney donation would receive first priority over anyone that is elderly.

    I am not in the least bit wrong, you may have misinterpreted my and/or VinnyMacks post. Zo was never put onto any sort of waiting list, therefore noone that is currently on it would have been affected or put at any sort of disadvantage.

    Being put on that waiting list is a last resort, Zo was never put on that list and never had to use any means of public services to receive a kidney, thus noone else was put in any sort of disadvantage. Many of his die-hard fans have been offering to donate a kidney for years ever since his condition was made public a few years ago, this does not put anyone at a disadvantage. Many of those people on the list rely on other people dying in car accidents and things of that sort and being an organ donor. If everyone in this country was an organ donor god forbid they did die in a car accident, there would not be any need for a waiting list and many lives would be saved.

    All of the people who offered to donate a kidney to Zo offered to donate them to him and him only, so either way, nobody on the waiting list will be affected by this.

    Zo was not being greedy or anything of the sort, if you were about to die and had hundreds, if not thousands of people willing to donate their kidneys to you to save your life, wouldn't you be thankful and issue a statement thanking them, regardless of whether you were going to go with them or not?

    Dexter is right though, let's just say Zo did infact receive special treatment if a family member was not a good candidate and he put at the front of the list, it would infact be more beneficial to give the kidney to the celebrity/athlete because they could increase awareness about it when a regular person could not. If celebrities never did any public service announcements or spoke publicly about things like this, the sad truth is that awareness about this type of stuff would not even be half as high as it is today.

    If anything, all of the people currently on the waiting list are benefitting from Zo having the same terrible disease they've got.

    Also, thank you for your kind comments Vinny.
     
  12. Accord

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinnyMack:</div><div class="quote_post">I am very sorry for your loss due to kidney failure and I appreciate your extended explaination on the issue.

    I still do agree with Trail_Blazer76 in that NBA players (professional athletes for that matter) do get preferential treatment in all facets of life. In life and death matters, medical matters, the rules should be administered equally. His cousin giving him that kidney was an awesome act of love (I hope) and it looks like things will work out for Zo.</div>

    Thanks for your comments.

    I just heard on NBATV that Zo and his cousin who donated the kidney have not seen each other since their childhood.
     
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    well all in all this is wonderful news for Zo, Family, and fans. I wish Zo the best.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Accord:</div><div class="quote_post">Zo is having his kidney transplant surgery this Friday, my best wishes go out to him and hope all goes well.

    Here is the article: http://www.basketball.com/cgi-bin/articycl...dney+transplant</div>

    Hey this is GREAT NEWS!! [​IMG]

    Zo was always a Great Undersized Warrior!! He reminds me allot of Evander Holyfield! Just ALL Heart & Guts!

    Zo Good Luck in Life:)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Accord:</div><div class="quote_post">Thanks for your comments.

    I just heard on NBATV that Zo and his cousin who donated the kidney have not seen each other since their childhood.</div>

    Your welcome, and this is the type of thing that really matters. We make so many off the cuff remarks about our basketball opinions, but when the serious stuff rolls around, it's nice to see everyone contributing at this level. Many of us have different experiences in our lives that are no so pleasent. It's nice when we can educate ourselves on these types of topics.
     

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