Do you Like your GM

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  1. jbbCourtVision

    jbbCourtVision JBB JustBBall Member

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    He is making some wacky offers out there like Bosh for Kurt Thomas? Thats horrible
     
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    starman85 JBB JustBBall Member

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    When'd he do that? Do you have a link?
     
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    nyckid4lyfe04 JBB JustBBall Member

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    yes, i was wondering the same thing, considering that deal does not work capwise. not sure about the raptors cap situation but my guess is they are over the cap not allowing this deal to work
     
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    Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the link.

    I think its a desperation move, and one that Toronto will laugh at, if they haven't already. That is a move that will never happen, especially after the Oakley-Camby trade. New York probably thinks they can get a similar deal or something. However, Bosh has way more upside than Camby, and could potentially be as close on defense while being much stronger offensively than Camby ever was.
     
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    I hate my GM.
     
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    Henacy JBB The Man like Sam

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    Actually he is gone now Scott Layden just got fired. Isiah Thomas The Great Piston star is replacing him
     
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    Yeah. Look for Isiah to really leave his stamp on this team. And that means grabbing a real point guard.
     
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    POINT GUARD: The Knicks go three deep at the one. The Charlie Ward era is nearly over, with his contract up after this season. That will help, since God's Son was making over $5 million this year. Frank Williams is still on his rookie deal, but he's been the most exciting player on the team thus far. He rarely plays, though he came in Saturday night against the Hawks and spurred a huge run that ultimately gave the Knicks the win. So why wasn't he playing all along? Finally, there's Howard Eisley, who's making over $5 million per until 2007! Layden did not sign him to that ridiculous contract -- Mark Cuban did, naturally -- but Layden went out and got him, basically for Glen Rice. That's nearly $13 million at the point. None of the three averages over 9 points per game or 5 assists per game.

    SHOOTING GUARD: There's really only one shooting guard on the Knicks roster: Allan Houston. Now, Houston has been battling injuries and is averaging around 20 points per game, but he makes over $14 million through 2007. That's Kobe-type money, and Houston is not a Kobe-type player. He's a great complementary player, and when his jumper is going he's near impossible to stop, but he can't take over a game. It doesn't help when the player making franchise-player money has the charisma of a statue. Houston's a nice guy and he's always been great with the media, but he just doesn't have that personality that a New York player needs to be loved. Plus, he made Latrell Sprewell play out of position for so many years, and Spree was such a favorite here in NYC for having that workmanlike attitude, it was tough to fill his Dada's. That's $14 million a year at the two guard. Hey, he gets $20 million in 2006-07.

    SMALL FORWARD: Welcome to the jungle. The two forward positions for the Knicks are a horrible mess, with bad players fighting for time against players who, for one reason or another, aren't what they used to be. The starting small forward for New York is Keith Van Horn, a famously indifferent performer that makes nearly $13 million per season through 2006. He's averaging 14.8 points per through today, nearly a point per million. His back-up is Shandon Anderson, and you could make a case that Shandon has been the Knicks best player this season, if only because he always, in the words of Rasheed Wallace, plays hard. He's not averaging many points (8 points per in 25 minutes a night), but he's the only player that consistently hustles and runs the floor. He's also the only Knick that ever tries to dunk on people, so that wins him points. His salary, though, is a problem: he makes $6 million a year through 2007. Lee Nailon, for example, averages 5 points a game and makes about $1 million from Atlanta. And the Knicks let Nailon walk. Anyway, that's $19 million at the three.

    POWER FORWARD: Here's the big logjam. Antonio McDyess, Kurt Thomas, Othella Harrington, Clarence Weatherspoon and Michael Sweetney are all fighting for minutes. McDyess, of course, was acquired for Nen? and Marcus Camby, a combo that has combined to help push Denver to the top of the Western Conference. McDyess, meanwhile, can only dunk if he's all alone under the basket, and even then he has to take a second to gather himself. He was once an amazingly explosive player, but that player is gone. Whether he will ever return remains to be seen. McDyess, by the way, is making $13 million this season, though he's a free agent after the year. McDyess's "return" from injury has pushed Krazy Kurt Thomas to the bench, which hasn't made Kurt happy. That's understandable, since Kurt's been the only consistent post player in New York over the last five years. He's also wildly underpaid by New York Knicks standards, making $5 million per through the end of this year. His low salary has made him perpetual trade bait, but he's stuck with it, averaging 14 and 8 last year. Harrington and Weatherspoon are basically interchangeable, two role players that don't understand they should be role players, so they're constantly turning the ball over and making the wrong passes. They have one other thing in common: They're overpaid. Weatherspoon actually makes slightly more than Kurt Thomas, through 2006, but we'll round it to $5 million. Harrington, who may actually be the worst power forward in the NBA, is making about $3 million per, through 2005. We haven't even gotten to Mike Sweetney, who the Knicks drafted at number nine, ahead of productive rookies like Jarvis Hayes, Josh Howard and Zarko Cabarkapa, despite being loaded at the four. Sweetney is currently on the chilling list, because there's no room for him in New York. All together, that's about $29 million at the 4.

    CENTER: Hey, is that Dikembe Mutombo creaking up and down the court? The former center, a lithe shot-blocking machine, disappeared. This Mutombo is always the last guy down on offense, and is more concerned with complaining to the refs than just playing the game. It's disappointing, because he's such a great guy. But there's a reason the Nets cut him. Layden gave him $10 over the next three years. His backup is Mike Doleac, who has done nothing and makes the minimum. And Travis Knight is getting $4 million for not being on the team That's about $8 million at the five spot.

    You add it all up, and it comes to around $88 million. My figures above might not be exact, but that's around $90 million in salary. That's ridiculous. The Utah Jazz for example, are paying $31 million. Almost all of Layden's moves, actually, were so bizarre that they left you saying, Huh?! Yes, he was that bad.
     

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