Magic Transactions

Discussion in 'Orlando Magic' started by DirtySouth, Dec 21, 2003.

  1. ZeroToOne50182

    ZeroToOne50182 JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">
    This will most likely be his last year. He'll probably get fired as soon as the last game is played, paving the way for the new GM, who will probably already have been decided on.</div>

    I pray to god.. i can't stand him with all his worthless deals...
     
  2. GatorsowntheNCAA

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    According to the paper, sorry can't get the link because Orlando Sentinel.com is screwing up with my username.

    It sounds like the deal is just going to be Harvey for a 2nd. No Archibald. It will get done tomorrow when Harvey's 90 days after he got signed is up.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Magic will send Donnell Harvey to the Phoenix Suns for a second-round draft pick, although the trade can not be announced until Tuesday.</div>

    Orlando Sentinel
     
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    So Harveys gone. Him and gooden did so well of the bench. By dude [​IMG]
     
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    Sucks for the Magic, but it looks like the house clearing is begun. I wouldn't be surprised if some of their other pine warmers start getting dished. I'd say the only solid blocks they'll hesitate to deal are TMac, Hill, Giricek and Gooden. Everyone else has an open door.
     
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    Why does this suck for the Magic? Harvey has done basically nothing in Orlando,he wasn't all that anyway.I'm surprised you even got a 2nd rounder for him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">Harvey has done basically nothing in Orlando,he wasn't all that anyway.I'm surprised you even got a 2nd rounder for him.</div>I thought Harvey bought some much needed energy into the paint. Sad to see him go.
     
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    He did give us a bunch of hustle. Doc didn't play him like he should have though.
     
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    Harvey was out of shape he couldn't finish around the basket. He would take himself out of the game on most nights. Something the Goose said he would never do back in the old days. Harvey said he had a bad back. Bogans has picked up the slack anyway.
     
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    <u>Confirmation</u>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Orlando Magic traded forward Donnell Harvey to the Phoenix Suns for a 2004 second round draft pick, General Manager John Gabriel announced today. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.

    The deal between the Magic and Suns had been done for days. But it couldn't be officially announced until today because players who are signed as free agents can't be traded until 90 days after the day they signed</div>

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/bask...?coll=orl-magic
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DirtySouth:</div><div class="quote_post">Harvey was out of shape he couldn't finish around the basket. He would take himself out of the game on most nights. Something the Goose said he would never do back in the old days. Harvey said he had a bad back. Bogans has picked up the slack anyway.</div>

    Yeah, but still, we didn't gain anything of value in return. We're not even going to keep the 2nd that we're getting for him. I just wish him good luck in Phoenix.
     
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    I bet he produces big numbers now. :P
     
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    2 Trades! Monty coming back!

    1st deal we all know.

    Donnell Harvey
    for
    Pho 2nd

    2nd deal
    Pho 2nd
    for
    Monty Williams
    GS 2nd


    So in all reality the deals was
    Donnell Harvey
    for
    Monty Williams
    GS 2nd

    Still pretty dumb, IMO. It could hopefully give us a gem such as Rashard Lewis, Gordan Giricek, or Gilbert Arenas in the 2nd round, but with Gabe as our GM we will likely will draft another Jeryl Sasser.
     
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    Yeah, im glad Monty is out of Philly. We needed a draft pick so I guess we get the good side. Monty is a good player dont get me wrong, but he struggles to stay healthy. He has been hurt since the game in New Orleans in the first round last year when his knee banged into a Hornets player's knee. I dont know if he sees any minutes with the Magic. Hopefully for you he will.
     
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    Monty will likely never play again.He is still considering retiring...He just can't go anymore.
     
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    Hes coming off a injury!?!? What are the magic thinking... Why dont they wait a little bit till they actually see him play, He could be a total bust or could end up like Grant Hill..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting :</div><div class="quote_post">What are the magic thinking... </div>
    Good question..Something I ask myself daily.

    Gabe just happened to make my day with his quote
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting :</div><div class="quote_post">Gabriel said he likes having second-round picks, feeling they "sometimes have more value" than a late first-round pick.</div>
    Link

    [​IMG] If he could actually select talent the first time around, he wouldn't have that problem.
     
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    Gabe is right. Sometimes 2nd rounders do have more value to a team.

    A first rounder means a guaranteed contract. Which is what teams want to avoid with uncertain players. A second round pick means the contract isn't guaranteed, which means they can be cut w/o affecting the cap.
     
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    Yes, that is true.

    I just find it sad that Gabe can?t pick talent the first time around.

    Jeryl Sasser, Steven Hunter, and Reece Gaines were the first rounders the Magic selected. They have proved thus far to be nothing but busts.

    Then on the other hand, the Magic selected 2nd rounder Zaza Pachulia who has played great off the bench.

    I just don?t like the transaction. The last thing the Magic need is another rookie on their roster. They need more players like Rod Strickland who will provide veteran leadership and step up in the locker room.

    When the Magic have talent, they trade it. We?ve seen Mike Miller, Troy Hudson, Darrell Armstrong, Ben Wallace, Matt Harpring, and Keon Clark, all come and go. Hopefully Gabe will be the next to leave.
     
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    Don't forget Keith Bogans, another 2nd rounder this year. He's been playing really good. Gabe needs to go.
     

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