Best Point Guard this Season

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  1. jbbKing James

    jbbKing James JBB Banned Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting BallerAK47:</div><div class="quote_post">Cassell and Davis</div>

    Do you ever explain why? Or do we need these posts in OT for you to respond with some detail? haha
     
  2. starman85

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">^^Great post starman!
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    Thanks KJ. [​IMG]

    I just have to give props to BDiddy, who's having one of the best seasons for a point in several years. People complain that pg's today aren't like pg's of the 80's and early 90's(including myself), guys like Magic, Isiah, and Kevin Johnson who averaged 20-10 in points and assists.

    Baron is comparable to that right now, and if he finishes the year with 20-21+ ppg and 8+ apg, and the Hornets finish in the top 3 in the East, I'd be surprised if he wasn't named to the 1st or 2nd all-NBA team.
     
  3. Henacy

    Henacy JBB The Man like Sam

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    KJ,Yes your right Miller does play a part in the success of the Nuggets but Carmelo plays a bigger part. When teams play the Nuggets they all want to stop the hot shot rookie therefore their defense tends to focus on Melo leaving easier opportunities for guys like Boykins, Camby & the rest of the role players that surround Anthony. If Melo wasnt there to attract that type of attention. It would be much harder for others to make plays. And I do remember when Miller led the league in assist as a Cav. but the guy said he made teams better. Him leading the league in assist didnt make the Cavs any better, they were still one of the worse teams in the league. And what happen to Miller when he went to the Clippers. He didnt make them better. Miller isnt an impact point guard that makes teams better, he is a point that fits in well on a team that has the impact player on it(like Melo).
     
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    jbbKing James JBB Banned Member

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    No one on the Nuggets stands out, each game someone else beats you. Miller has had a few 20 point, 10 assist games, Boykins had a 13, 5, and 13 assist game and is still a 4th quarter clutch performer, Lenard has had some amazing scoring games and clutch 3 pointers late to seal wins, Camby and Nene have been great on the defensive end and I have not seen games where they have not dunked on someone to steal momentum. Melo is not the scoring leader on this team by that distant of a margin, the assist numbers are not impressive either. Melo does what he does best, run the floor and finish.

    I am not knocking, degrading, or taking anything away from Melo, but this team is just that, a team, and they play great team basketball. Saying that the reason why they are winning is because of Melo is a slap in the face to the rest of these guys who are playing just as well.

    Teams win, not individuals.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">No one on the Nuggets stands out, each game someone else beats you. Miller has had a few 20 point, 10 assist games, Boykins had a 13, 5, and 13 assist game and is still a 4th quarter clutch performer, Lenard has had some amazing scoring games and clutch 3 pointers late to seal wins, Camby and Nene have been great on the defensive end and I have not seen games where they have not dunked on someone to steal momentum. Melo is not the scoring leader on this team by that distant of a margin, the assist numbers are not impressive either. Melo does what he does best, run the floor and finish.

    I am not knocking, degrading, or taking anything away from Melo, but this team is just that, a team, and they play great team basketball. Saying that the reason why they are winning is because of Melo is a slap in the face to the rest of these guys who are playing just as well.

    Teams win, not individuals.</div>

    I like the last thing said, so true. I also agree about Boykins, I would've said Cassell but well he hogs the ball sometimes and takes shots he shouldn't. Kinda like NVE but he doesn't make them as much as NVE does. Boykins is a hard worker, very infact, plus he's at such a disadvantage, the biggest underdog. Can be like AI, the little big man. He has heart, determination and courage, like Madsen and AI he's ready to play and won't back down or take heat from anybody.
     
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    Teams may win, but certain individuals have more to do with a team winning than others. That's the case in Denver with Carmelo, as he is the one that the defense sets their focus on during the games. Henacy is right in that Miller is not really an impact point guard, he needs that one good player to be around him in order for his effectiveness to really show. Without Carmelo, Miller doesn't have that one guy to play off of and be a success with.

    Don't get me wrong, though. I realize the fact that the Nuggets have a very good team concept, but without Carmelo the Nuggets lose a much needed scoring punch and the focus teams put on Carmelo open things up for other players.
     
  7. 9SA21SPURS20

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    Here are my top 5 for this Yr

    1.B-Diddy
    2.J-Kidd
    3.Marbury (aint his fault that phx is losing)
    4.Franchise
    5.Cassell

    HM Crawford , GP , Parker
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">Here are my top 5 for this Yr

    1.B-Diddy
    2.J-Kidd
    3.Marbury (aint his fault that phx is losing)
    4.Franchise
    5.Cassell

    HM Crawford , GP , Parker</div>

    Can't argue(too much) with that list, but Crawford is a 2guard now, with Hinrich playing the point.
     
  9. Henacy

    Henacy JBB The Man like Sam

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Magic Johnson:</div><div class="quote_post">I like the last thing said, so true. I also agree about Boykins, I would've said Cassell but well he hogs the ball sometimes and takes shots he shouldn't. Kinda like NVE but he doesn't make them as much as NVE does. Boykins is a hard worker, very infact, plus he's at such a disadvantage, the biggest underdog. Can be like AI, the little big man. He has heart, determination and courage, like Madsen and AI he's ready to play and won't back down or take heat from anybody.</div>

    Van Excel makes more shots than Sam. Where have you been these past few season please go look up shooting % for the past few seasons.
     
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    Jason Kidd. In my mind he's been the best for the last 3 years. He has taken NJ out of the graveyard and brought them to life, there record isnt very good right now compared to the past 2 years, but Jkidd is a true team leader. A PG that is doing very well is Boykins. He is underated cause of his size, but hes a great player and is helping Denver keep there spot in the playoff run.
     

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