At Least Someone is Willing to Work on Shooting

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  1. Hunter

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">J.R. Bremer has been so concerned about a shooting slump that has cut back on his playing time, that he's making an extra effort to return to form.

    At an hour when most people are sleeping or maybe enjoying cocktails in The Flats, Bremer's working on his jump shot at Gund Arena. It's not uncommon for him to be in the gym at 1 a.m.

    "The only way to improve is to just stay at it," Bremer said. "You don't always get enough time in practice to work on your shot, so that's why I come in here during different times to get in some extra work."
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    I think this is a great sign. The level of play in the NBA is significantly down this year. Most of that can be blamed on the horrible shooting that is taking place. I wish more players would be like Bremer, and be willing to stay late and work hard to earn their paycheck. Nowdays, many players are satisfied getting paid millions of dollars, and are not willing to improve their game.
     
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    See now why cant move people be like JR Bremer. I mean this seaons most NBA players are shooting up airballs or clanks!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting deestillballin:</div><div class="quote_post">See now why cant move people be like JR Bremer. I mean this seaons most NBA players are shooting up airballs or clanks!</div>

    English Dee, and Bremer has been one of those players shooting up airballs and clanks.
     
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    What a revelation! Practice shooting - become a good shooter. Practice more - become a very good shooter. Practice all the time - become a great shooter! At least someone in the NBA realizes that this theory works. Props to J.R. - being a good outside shooter is a sure way to keep a job in the league these days. Nice find Dexter, heart-warming piece. :sun:
     
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    Great to see some in the NBA that practise their shot much!
    Espesially when it's a Cavaliers player![​IMG]
     
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    Ok. NBA players practice their shooting ALL the time. There are just a couple problems: they can't hit them in a game, they don't practice their shooting correctly, the defense is too good for them to get off a shot they like.

    There are some players who just freeze up when it comes to shooting during gametime. They can hit jumper after jumper after jumper when practicing but when the lights are on them, they can't do it anymore.

    I know about the second point some of you guys might be questioning it, but coaching of these players has gotten progressively worse as the years go by. Shooting form is no longer stressed by a lot of coaches so you see players with jacked up shooting forms. When it comes to playing on the highest level the way the shoot can hinder someone's game greatly. They won't be able to get a shot off fast enough, they can't shoot with a hand in their face or else they'll get blocked, etc.

    As for the third point, I think this one affects people the most. Defense is just too good right now. In the '80's why do you think so many people were able to hit so many mid-range jumpers? It's because there was hardly anyone trying to guard in the mid-range area so it was open for the taking. In today's game defense is stressed so much that coaches worry about defense more than improving their players on offense. They come up with complicated defensive schemes and tactics that are built to make the other teams shoot as badly as possibly and it works most of the time because the other coaches do the same thing, practice defense not offense so their players won't know how to score against the defense going against them.
     
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    I agree that coaching has placed a premium on defense over the last decade. I also agree that players are not using proper form, though I don't believe that this is due to lack of coaches teaching it. Somewhere along the way, each and every NBA player has had at least one coach who showed them the proper shooting form. I feel the real problem is that these players just don't take shooting seriously. Many of today's young players would rather learn how to cross somebody over and dunk, rather than learn the proper way to shoot a free throw or hit a baseline jumper.

    There's no excuse for being a poor shooter. If you practice your stroke and take high-quality shots, you'll shoot for a higher percentage. It really is simple. Do the players of today have as much open space to work with? No. But, on the whole, the players in this league could, and should be much better shooters. Shooting really is much like playing effective defense, it's all about technique and fundamentals. It doesn't matter how big or small you are, or what level of the game you play on.
     
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    Great posts sunsfan1357 and OgShowtime!
    Really intrresting reading!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting OgShowtime:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree that coaching has placed a premium on defense over the last decade. I also agree that players are not using proper form, though I don't believe that this is due to lack of coaches teaching it. Somewhere along the way, each and every NBA player has had at least one coach who showed them the proper shooting form. I feel the real problem is that these players just don't take shooting seriously. Many of today's young players would rather learn how to cross somebody over and dunk, rather than learn the proper way to shoot a free throw or hit a baseline jumper.

    There's no excuse for being a poor shooter. If you practice your stroke and take high-quality shots, you'll shoot for a higher percentage. It really is simple. Do the players of today have as much open space to work with? No. But, on the whole, the players in this league could, and should be much better shooters. Shooting really is much like playing effective defense, it's all about technique and fundamentals. It doesn't matter how big or small you are, or what level of the game you play on.</div>

    These players will take shooting seriously just as soon as NBA management and coaches look at taking shooters seriously. In college you have tons of player who are good/great shooters. Why don't they make the league? Because the NBA people say they are no athletic enough, they aren't tall enough, they aren't fast enough. We'd see better shooters just as soon as the good shooters start to get drafted. The NBA is advertising that they want the guys who practice nothing but great dunks and crossovers. Look at scouting reports and they'll say: Great shooter with a great touch, but is not athletic enough or tall enough to play in the NBA. The NBA chooses to get these athletic players with no skills hoping that they can develop the skills as the player's career goes along. By then it simply is too late so you see a league full of Daruis Miles type players.
     
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    This is truly lifting, this really separates the people, from the stars. I admire this guy, I haven't seen such commedable commitment or heart in a long time. On the court yes, but not on improving one's self. I hope this guy gets far and gets what he's trying to aim for. Whoever has him or whomever will have him will be very lucky. Cavaliers are lucky to have him. Nice article as usual dex.
     
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    Yeah, shooting is pathetic in the NBA...

    players like Ray Allen, Peja Stojokovic are so fun to watch because they can shoot from anywhere...

    its such a lost art...
     
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    I think the players that are average shooters sometimes try and work on new moves over the summer more than just flat out shooting. im not sayin this about all players, because there are a lot of hardworking players in the nba
     
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    Well some may have to have forgotten the overused line:

    "Practice makes perfect"

    Then some practices then stops coz they think it's already perfect. There is no such thing as perfection. Practice makes improvement, not perfection.

    Props to Bremer.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting InNETSweTrust:</div><div class="quote_post">Well some may have to have forgotten the overused line:

    "Practice makes perfect"

    Then some practices then stops coz they think it's already perfect. There is no such thing as perfection. Practice makes improvement, not perfection.

    Props to Bremer.</div>

    Definitely, that's thinking properly and realistically, get post INWT! It's certainly true though, perfection is an illusion and improvement is the realistic nearest to it yet still being very far. Improving one's self in any manner is one of the most admirable things a player, no scratch that. Make that person, anything a person can do. Say Rasheed Wallace improving his attitude, that would be so much more promising and worthwhile then say Butler or Big Ben working on their very poor shooting.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting sunsfan1357:</div><div class="quote_post">These players will take shooting seriously just as soon as NBA management and coaches look at taking shooters seriously. In college you have tons of player who are good/great shooters. Why don't they make the league? Because the NBA people say they are no athletic enough, they aren't tall enough, they aren't fast enough. We'd see better shooters just as soon as the good shooters start to get drafted. The NBA is advertising that they want the guys who practice nothing but great dunks and crossovers. Look at scouting reports and they'll say: Great shooter with a great touch, but is not athletic enough or tall enough to play in the NBA. The NBA chooses to get these athletic players with no skills hoping that they can develop the skills as the player's career goes along. By then it simply is too late so you see a league full of Daruis Miles type players.</div>

    This is because shooting can be learned, unlike athleticism. Face it, athleticism beats good shooting. Let one of those slow guys who can shoot (remember Steve Alford?) play in the league and see what happens when an athletic guy guards him. He won't get his shot off and he'll miss the ones he does.

    Who says guys don't work on shooting? Ricky Davis practices his shooting at least 25, to 30 times a game. LOL.
     

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