Who is more important? Webber or Peja?

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  1. Sir Desmond

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    I pose this question due to the Kings' form without Chris Webber over the last few seasons, and it always seems to be very good. Of course Webber's absence showed in the playoffs last year against Dallas, but at the same time they didn't have Brad Miller at that time. Miller's seamless transition into the team and his great feel for a big man surely begs the question: is Peja Stojakovic more important to this team than Chris Webber?

    Note that 'more important' isn't the same as 'who's better', and what do people think about this matter? Could Sacramento cope with losing Webber better than they could with losing Peja? If Webber came back into the side and Peja went out would they be a better side than they are currently? Feel free to post your thoughts on the matter.

    PS - For the record I feel Peja may be slightly more important at this very moment, purely because of Brad Miller. However Divac's age may shoot this theory to bits, and also having Gerald Wallace a capable fill-in for Peja.
     
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    Webber. The Mavs wouldnt of been able to win a 7 game series if Webber was there. Peja there gone the Kings would still in IMO.

    True enough Miller being there would help out, but he couldnt get the job done against them, much less, he could in a 7 game series.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting deestillballin:</div><div class="quote_post">Webber. The Mavs wouldnt of been able to win a 7 game series if Webber was there. Peja there gone the Kings would still in IMO.</div>

    That's very true - but they didn't have Brad Miller and his form in last season's playoffs. What about now?
     
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    Webber no doubt. Alot of there L's would've been W's if he was with them
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sir Desmond:</div><div class="quote_post">That's very true - but they didn't have Brad Miller and his form in last season's playoffs. What about now?</div>


    I get what your saying now. You tend to forget im slow. I have to say its a tie, both of them have equal value to the team. If one is out, they have to come off the bench to make them able to beat other teams.
     
  6. Sir Desmond

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TimFlem:</div><div class="quote_post">Webber no doubt. Alot of there L's would've been W's if he was with them</div>

    Assuming Peja wasn't playing any of those games?
     
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    Oh my bad I just turned my brain on I agree with dee it's like a tie btween both of them.Meaning one can fill in for the other.
     
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    Peja. They Kings would miss out on his shooting ability too much. Brad Miller is doing fine for C-Webb right now, I like it how it is. But to go a little off topic, when Kings do get Webber back, there going alot more dangerous than they are now.
     
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    Peja, the Kings still win without Webber (Who is injured every single season, kind of reminds you of a guy named Carter)

    The playoffs last year are an "if", I'm sorry, you can't give credit to an "if".
     
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    Peja is more important now that Kings have added Brad Miller to their roster.Without Peja can you safely say that their players will consistantly knock down threes? With Peja you knew that if open he will knock it down every time.
     
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    Peja is more important to this team, especially now with Brad Miller aboard.

    Maybe the question should be Miller or Webber.
     
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    Without Brad, it'd be easy to decide that Webber's more important, but now that Miller is on the team and is doing a good job, Peja is more important (with his terrific outside shooting).
     
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    Peja Stojakavic is more important to the team. Look how good the Kings are doing without Webber, and look at when the Kings played Dallas on 12/25. The absence of Peja was a factor in that game. The Kings need Stojakavic's outside shot and especially since the Kings acquired Brad Miller, Webber isn't really a necessity to the Kings anymore.
     
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    bottom line is when it get's down and dirty playoff time and u need a physical inside dominating presense webber is the hey to your squad. I like peja but when push comes to shove.......
     
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    Webber is more important because of his leadership and athletism.
     
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    Hmmm... real tough question. Lets just say, in the playoffs, the Kings would go nowhere without either of these guys. I honstley believe the Kings would suffer more without Webber in the playoffs because he gives you scoring, rebouding, inside presence, and they can play the inside out game. It is real close and the fact that it is debatable really makes it hard to pick either one.
     
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    This is nonsense to say that Peja is more important now that they have Brad Miller. That would be like saying Reggie is more important that JO, when they had Brad Miller (exaggeration).

    The Kings are in the western conference. A team with two big men is better off than a team with one big man and a shooting guard (Duncan and Robinson beat Shaq and Kobe last year).

    Peja may appear to be more important to people who have forgotten that Webber has yet to play this year, lol. Realistically, Webber brings so much more to the team than Peja who is one-dimensional, unvocal, and completely overrated.

    Webber all the way.
     
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    Peja may be unvocal, but you can't call him overrated. He may not be an Allen Iverson or Tracy MacGrady but he puts up great numbers every time he goes to play on that court and he helps the team, and that's all that matters. As far as him being more important than Webber...well, Webber does have yet to play this year, so I guess there's yet to speak on who is more important to the team too, but they're both important parts of the team.
     
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    I believe Peja is more important because the Kings have good inside presence already. Sure 3 big guys is better than 2, but I would rather have Peja. The man can shoot. The Kings have shown they don't need Webber. If he wasn't there last year, they might have won the championship. Why? the emotional blow that the Kings took wouldn't have been there.
    If I had a choice, I would take Peja over Iverson and McGrady. Why? His shooting percentage is excellent and you can't foul him because he is almost automatic from the line.
     
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    In the past, it would be Webber hands down. Right now, well, come playoff time I'd still rather have Webber if I had to choose. But Brad Miller has really made Webber more expendable than he ever was before. This team can compete without Webber, whereas in the past they really couldn't. Now it would be interesting to see how they match up with other top teams going all out. They're not quite title caliber, but they're not too far...

    Without Peja, they don't really have a contingency plan to makeup for him. They would either have to go small with Bibby, Bobby, Doug, Chris and either Brad or Vlade, or go big with Bibby, Doug, Chris, Brad and Vlade. Tough either way.
     

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