In The End Will Kobe Retire And Be The Greatest Player Ever To Play The Game Of Baske

With all the turmoil of the case and the injuries he has i have been wondering will kobe bryant percevere and come out to be the greatest or fade away and be consideerd a failure?

 

Kobe will be considered great, but not the greatest. Definetly a HOFer (given he won't go to jail)

btw, this belongs in the Laker fourm...

 

Going by your thread title, even if Kobe weathers this storm and plays another dozen years, he won't be the greatest player ever. He's too full of himself as a player to be able to achieve that. I could go on and on about this, but I won't. There are too many great players who Kobe can't reach in terms of achievement to be labeled THE GREATEST player.

I think he can be ONE OF the greatest however.

Kobe is a guy who is young enough and talented enough to reach the coveted 30,000 pt plateau. So too are guys like Iverson, McGrady, Bron and Melo. But it will eventually come down to how well he can lead a team, and in the end I don't think he ever will match what he accomplished as Shaq's sidekick.

The perception, then, will be that he faded away. But that will occur, IMO, regardless of whether he becomes a career 23 ppg scorer or has 1 or 2 more 30+ppg scoring seasons.

I don't think his image or standing in the game will in any way be improved by these events, such as one saying "Oh yeah, Kobe had to overcome all that and is still so fantastic." That's just not gonna happen. Even if proved innocent, which will likely happen, his image will be forever tarnished, and it will be of his own doing.

That being said, the man is in an unfortunate situation, but I think he'll get through this hard time in his life just as most people get through hard times, and if he adjusts well he'll still have quite a career ahead of him. And most likely, he'll then end up on the Top 75-players-ever list in 2022.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">he won't be the greatest player ever. He's too full of himself as a player to be able to achieve that.

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Jordan was full of himself too. Didn't stop him

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Jordan was full of himself too. Didn't stop him </div>He's got a point. One thing about Kobe is his passionate desire to be the best...I can't think of anyone else in this league that works harder and more passionately than Kobe. The last person I remember that had such desire was MJ himself...and look where that got him.

Now going back to the initial question, will Kobe be the greatest of all time? That's a huge title...but that's something that only time will tell. Anything else that is said will be pure speculation and opinion.

 

Kobe Bryant is my favorite player, but I will be honest here: I do not expect Kobe to even become one of the Top-10 greatest of all time, much less the greatest, period. As good as he is, and as good as he can become provided his career isn't ended prematurely, there are players currently in the Top-10 whom I don't see him overcoming (Jordan, Chamberlain, Magic, etc.), in addition to players today whom I doubt Kobe will surpass in greatness by the time it's all over--Shaq, Duncan, and Garnett.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting lakergk:</div><div class="quote_post">With all the turmoil of the case and the injuries he has i have been wondering will kobe bryant percevere and come out to be the greatest or fade away and be consideerd a failure?</div>

I hope your talking about the case when you said he could fade away and be considered a failure. I love Kobe and is my favorite player, before it's all said and done we could be looking at him as one of the best ever, but probably not THE best. It depends, if he has some Jordan-like seasons, you never know.

 

To tell you the truth, Kobe was only gettin better before his little actions in colorado...

Its too early to say that hes gonna be the best, hes 24 and thats extremely young. Anythin can happen within his career, and this will be a stronger debate AFTER his trial.

 

It's still too early in the game to say what Kobe Bryant's ultimate legacy will be. All we can say with little hesitation, at this juncture, is that Kobe is a future Hall of Famer.

I doubt that he'll surpass Jordan in overall greatness; that's too much of a legacy to overcome.

 

It depends on how his legal problems fair out. Despite what he's going through now and how it's already effected his career no one will ever be able to deny tha skills he has on the court. He is Michael Jordan of this time in my opinion. In the end, whenever that is, he may not be the greatest of all-time, but he"ll be one of them.

 

People like Duncan and Garnett are already living legends and are sure fire. I think Kobe is the same. He goes on the same deal as say, TMac and VC. He has matured as a player, and as much as I hate him, due to his being cocky previously. I have to admit he's good, an offensive machine and not as much as a ballhog as before. As for being a Hall Of Famer, I agree he will be, but not one of the best, that's reserved for the true pioneers.

 

Kobe won't ever be " THE GREATEST" he'll just has to settle with the "ONE OF THE GREATEST" title. He'll be in the group with Vince Carter,Tracy Mcgrady,Steve Francis and So on. IMO no one can be the greatest again they just have to be one of the greatest

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting lakergk:</div><div class="quote_post">With all the turmoil of the case and the injuries he has i have been wondering will kobe bryant percevere and come out to be the greatest or fade away and be consideerd a failure?</div>Neither. Assuming that he isn't found guilty, Kobe will continue playing as he has done, which is as ONE of the GREATEST players in the league. He is not the best in the league at the present time in my opinion, and I do not foresee him blossoming after this case. Sure Kobe is great, but not the greatest.

 

Ok kobe thrives to be the greates player to play the game and year by year he has shown his comitment to that prestigious title. But does the weight of having one 3 championship rings as a sidekick to Shaquille reduced the impact of what he has done? and if so then does kobe have to wait till Shaquille retires or move out of L.A and win a ring in order to be considered to be truly "The Greatest Of All Time"?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TimFlem:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe won't ever be " THE GREATEST" he'll just has to settle with the "ONE OF THE GREATEST" title. He'll be in the group with Vince Carter,Tracy Mcgrady,Steve Francis and So on. IMO no one can be the greatest again they just have to be one of the greatest</div>

Steve Francis is going to be one of the greatest players of all-time?! I doubt that. A good point guard and all-star, yes, but not one of the best to play the game.

We as Laker fans can only hope for Kobe to become one if not the best ever.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">Steve Francis is going to be one of the greatest players of all-time?! I doubt that. A good point guard and all-star, yes, but not one of the best to play the game.

We as Laker fans can only hope for Kobe to become one if not the best ever.
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I get what your saying on that one. Maybe He won't maybe he will none no's they just have to hope and pray. I was just speaking my Opinion Gary Payton and Karl Malone would be some would'nt they

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TimFlem:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe won't ever be " THE GREATEST" he'll just has to settle with the "ONE OF THE GREATEST" title. He'll be in the group with Vince Carter,Tracy Mcgrady,Steve Francis and So on. IMO no one can be the greatest again they just have to be one of the greatest</div>


Kobe is, and will be in a different class than Vince Carter and Franchise. Those two guys aren't even Hall of Fame material (if they play like they are playing now for the rest of their career).

 

Kobe wont be the greatest , but if by some chance he does accomplish that...it wont last long.There is a 19-yr old rite , who once its all said and done will be "THE GREATEST"...the guy is sick , its scary to think how good hell be in his prime...of course im talking about the King , Lebron James.

 

Another thing to remember is that players are judged by how many titles they win. Look at Bill Rusell. If he played today, he may get roasted. But how many titles does he have? The dude has 11...

If MJ had won just 2 titles, would he still be looked at as the greatest? Kobe will probably win at least 5 titles by the end of his career; can we say the same for Lebron?

So 9SA21SPURS20, when you say LeBron will likely be the greatest, you bring up a good point, since he is so young and so skilled, but simply put, he probably won't win alot of titles or play on outstanding teams. He might not ever be surrounded by a good supporting cast like MJ or Kobe&Shaq.

 

Kobe is also my favorite player, same as other Laker fans here, but to say that when he retires and will be the greatest is kinda going overboard. Before Kobe, we had legends that played this game, examples like Bird, Russell, Magic, Wilt, Kareem etc...and I'm sure fans in years past thought that one of those guys were the greatest players. So I'd put Kobe as one of the greatest. Can't forget about legends that came before Kobe's time.