ESPN.com's Marc Stein Thinkin Negative about the Sixers

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  1. MVPlaya

    MVPlaya JBB Banned Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Marc Stein:</div><div class="quote_post">In Philadelphia, with the 76ers, it's just a New Year.


    There's very little Happy about it.


    The dissatisfaction only partly stems from a schedule that calls for the Sixers to be in Houston on New Year's Eve, facing the Rockets in a game that will tip off at 10 p.m. ET and finish after midnight. More distressing is the realization that Allen Iverson is about to miss his 10th game in the past 11 because of knee discomfort that won't go away.


    It's distressing for at least three reasons. The Answer's absence has A) coincided with a 3-7 skid, which [​IMG] leaves him on pace to play the fewest number of games in his career (56) in the first season after signing a rich contract extension and has C) generated some disturbing whispers about the state of the Sixers' team harmony.


    If anyone is entitled to rest "until I'm 100 percent," as he announced recently, it's Iverson. He has famously played through almost every conceivable injury and undeniably ranks as one of the toughest players this league has ever seen.

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    Full ESPN.com Article
     
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    Mark Stien downs everybody, Then looks surprised when the teams he downs makes him look like a fool. pathetic if you ask me.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting deestillballin:</div><div class="quote_post">Mark Stien downs everybody, Then looks surprised when the teams he downs makes him look like a fool. pathetic if you ask me.</div>

    IMO all the analysis are like that. No matter what sport.
     
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    Why does he even get paid to do this? Everything I've ever seen him say or write is so blatantly obvious to any arbitrary basketball observer (e.g. "The Lakers are going to have a great team; my question is, 'how well are these highly-talented Hall of Famers going to work together?'" ) that his opinion is worth no more than one of the thousands of anonymous votes on an ESPN.com poll.
     
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    Stein is the poorest exuse for an analyst in sports- in fact the entire ESPN team especially Steven Smith, Lambeer, & Sean Elliot are all pathetic.

    <font color="Red">Do not post someone's e-mail address if you are going to encourage members to harass them. -TB76</font>
     
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    Sean Elliot is actually pretty intelligent....mind sharing why you feel otherwise?

    Yeah, Laimbeer is a moron.
     
  7. Hunter

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    It doesn't look like Ayers has complete control of his team. Check this part of the article posted above out.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Either way, with or without Iverson in the lineup, Ayers is dealing with multiple challenges. Before this week's clear-the-air meeting with Kenny Thomas, there was a wild scene in a home loss to Cleveland. Ayers sent Samuel Dalembert to the scorer's table to replace Derrick Coleman, who saw Dalembert coming and bellowed, "Hell no."

    Coach Coleman, according to witnesses, loudly, uh, suggested that Dalembert return to the bench. Ayers, witnesses say, relented and told Dalembert to go in for Thomas instead.</div>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Sean Elliot is actually pretty intelligent....mind sharing why you feel otherwise?

    Yeah, Laimbeer is a moron.</div>

    Yea, I think out of all of those people on TV, Sean Elliot seems to know his basketball more than anyone on there.

    Laimbeer = Laker Hater
     
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    Legler and Eliot are the only ESPN guys with analysis I'd actually listen to. Too bad Kevin Frazier has to be the main anchor.
     
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    I think you all are being waay to hard on Marc Stein. I mean that section of his article is not even really bashing the Sixers so much as it is a tribute to A.I.'s toughness and value to the team. Any negativity was even justified given that the sixers had dropped 7 out of 10 when the article was published.

    His analysis is not always negative and it is certainly not always wrong. Read this quote from the same article, it is accurate, downright insightful at times and the tone is generally positive:

    "I said it with Ricky Davis and believed it even more strongly with Ron Artest. These guys are too talented to give away without first trying to see if they can mesh with their teams' new leaders.


    The Pacers wisely opted to see if Ron Artest and Rick Carlisle could work together first.
    It would have been a mistake for Cleveland to dump Davis in the summer without seeing first if he could click with LeBron James. After a brief honeymoon in training camp, the Cavs conceded that it wasn't going to work and sent him to Boston for a locker-room leader (Eric Williams) Paul Silas is comparing to the late Bobby Phills.

    Indiana was even smarter to keep Artest instead of trying to deal him before Rick Carlisle had a chance to coach him. You don't dump one of the league's best two-way players without a trial period.

    Rocky as the Carlisle-Artest marriage looks at the minute, there has been far more good than bad in their partnership so far. Base-year compensation restrictions would make Artest tough to trade regardless, but it's way too soon for the Pacers to punt on him.

    We've all been waiting for Artest to backslide, but let's see how he rebounds. Let's see, furthermore, if Larry Bird has any influence on him."

    Read the article again and see if you still feel the same way. And remember it is an EDITORIAL, meaning his opinion, so you aren't supposed to agree with him all the time.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor...marc&id=1697572
     
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    Ayers is quickly losing control of this team. A change has to be made or else this season could be a mess. By the way, the article says that AI isn't untouchable...hm....I'll tell you one thing, if he's traded...I'm going to have to look for a new favorite team. AI is Philly BBall...
     
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    Just another shot or attempt to bring in the negative with Iverson and Ayers. Doesn't this guy have anything better to do? *smh*
     
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    I think Ayers is doing a great job, yeah he has made mistakes, but what do you expect from a rookie coach. The team plays hard for him night in and night out, i never see them give up during a game. All the sixers need to do is not turn the ball over as much, and learn to box out.
     
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    Marc Stein:
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If anyone is entitled to rest "until I'm 100 percent," as he announced recently, it's Iverson. He has famously played through almost every conceivable injury and undeniably ranks as one of the toughest players this league has ever seen.</div>http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor...marc&id=1697572

    Stein isn't blasting Iverson, or the Sixers. He's simply stating facts. Derrick Coleman is a pain in the ---. AI isn't happy with this team. Ayers has had a difficult go, having to deal with injuries and poor attitudes. Where's the problem? You have to realize that this stuff is all true. Stein is a very good columnist, just as Sean Elliot is an excellent ananylist. The biggest problem with ESPN's basketball coverage is Steven A. Smith. He can't get his point across without shouting at everyone and declaring himself the greatest. Steven should have kept his opinions where they belong - in print and off TV.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">IMO all the analysis are like that. No matter what sport.</div>

    Yes this is true, I also believe analysis trys to attack players. They should try admiring them more than attack them.
     

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