<div class="quote_poster">Quoting OgShowtime:</div><div class="quote_post">Just as a sidenote: where does Mickael Pietrus fit into that mix in Oakland? He's a swingman, but with Richardson and Dunleavy occupying those spots, he'll never get a shot to start in that lineup. Would the Warriors actually consider trading one of those two players in order to make room for Mickael in a couple of years when he's ready for some substantial PT?</div> That is a good question. First of all, no way J-Rich is traded. He is the heart and soul of this team, the franchise player. Unless Kobe Bryant wants to come to the bay, he ain't going nowhere. I don't see them dealing Dunleavy either. The Warriors got rid of Jamison to make Dunleavy the main man at the SF. He is only getting better with time. Pietrus has showed glimpses of his ability. He is a good defensive player and has time to develope offensively. This is the NBA, anything can happen in a few years. I say give Pietrus time to develope and become a player with "starting potential", then make some decisions.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting OgShowtime:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree that he is an exciting player, and definitely has more miles left than Nick, though I don't know that this deal would really make much of a difference for the Warriors either now, or for the future. Golden State would benefit much more from having a quality, pass-first guard in the fold. Don't get me wrong, Terry is a decent player.But with J-Rich in the backcourt, I would rather see them pick up somebody with a greater desire to distribute the ball. Terry would just be competing with Richardson to see who could put up the most shots on a nightly basis. It's just my opinion, but I don't like JT at the PG spot. </div> Jason Terry 14.4 attempts per game Nick Van Exel 12.5 attempts per game Thats not that big of a difference, and if the Warriors don't want JT at the point, he has trade value, and he comes off the books next year (i think)
To me that's the main concern, I know that Nick likes to jack it up as well, but Terry is even worse. I would like to see a guy like Brent Barry in Oakland. He shoots the ball 7.5 times per game on average, still puts up over 11 points and has a great shooting percentage of .492 . He's also a much better playmaker and leader. He's a bit older than Terry, but he's a gritty, smart player. Besides, the Warrior fans would love to see another Barry in the lineup, he would be an instant fan favorite.
good points about barry... but did anyone think about a lineup involving mike dunleavy at the point? it sounds wierd, i kno, but potentially, you have mdj bringing the ball up with jason and mickael on the wings.. then u trade nick and damp away and try and pick up a solid 4 and 5 in the trade, in the offseason or through the draft...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nakaholik:</div><div class="quote_post">good points about barry... but did anyone think about a lineup involving mike dunleavy at the point? it sounds wierd, i kno, but potentially, you have mdj bringing the ball up with jason and mickael on the wings.. then u trade nick and damp away and try and pick up a solid 4 and 5 in the trade, in the offseason or through the draft...</div> Offensively, that would work but Dunleavy isn't fast enough nor is he a good defender to guard quick pointguards.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG is the MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">do any of them have anything of value to trade to each other?</div> Who?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobeonfire:</div><div class="quote_post">Who?</div> I think he's talking about Terry/Van Exel
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">I think he's talking about Terry/Van Exel</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quoting OgShowtime:</div><div class="quote_post">To me that's the main concern, I know that Nick likes to jack it up as well, but Terry is even worse.</div> Terry will definetley take more shots, but if he gets on a team that has a chance to win games and possibly be a consideration for playoff contention, he may understand his role better. Then again, Warriors may need him to shoot more, of course J-Rich is the go-to-guy, Dunleavy is a good scorer but has shown inconsisteny. Warriors may need a guy like Terry, he's more of a threat on the offensive end imo, his point total is up in the 20's almost every game, while NVE has only scored 20+ twice this year. Also not to mention Terry shoots a better FG% than Van Exel. It just doesn't seem like NVE wants to win as bad as anyone else on that Warrior team, Warriors have nothing to lose, they need a change quick, if it's there, I say go for it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting OgShowtime:</div><div class="quote_post">To me that's the main concern, I know that Nick likes to jack it up as well, but Terry is even worse.</div> Terry will definetley take more shots, but if he gets on a team that has a chance to win games and possibly be a consideration for playoff contention, he may understand his role better. Then again, Warriors may need him to shoot more, of course J-Rich is the go-to-guy, Dunleavy is a good scorer but has shown inconsisteny. Warriors may need a guy like Terry, he's more of a threat on the offensive end imo, his point total is up in the 20's almost every game, while NVE has only scored 20+ twice this year. Also not to mention Terry shoots a better FG% than Van Exel. It just doesn't seem like NVE wants to win as bad as anyone else on that Warrior team, Warriors have nothing to lose, they need a change quick, if it's there, I say go for it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nakaholik:</div><div class="quote_post">good points about barry... but did anyone think about a lineup involving mike dunleavy at the point? it sounds wierd, i kno, but potentially, you have mdj bringing the ball up with jason and mickael on the wings.. then u trade nick and damp away and try and pick up a solid 4 and 5 in the trade, in the offseason or through the draft...</div>Its an idea but I don't see that working. Like Obie said, he is slow on D and wouldn't be able to hang with PGs. They could always but Dunleavy on a SF on D though.
Yeah, Mike Jr. is not equipped to defend NBA pg's. He's most valuable to this team at SF, where he's able to hit jumpers and slash to the basket.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pego61:</div><div class="quote_post">too late. the knicks just traded ward and they dont need van exel</div> It's not official yet, remember that.
Yea, we could pretty much throw this rumor out the window now. I don't see this trade being denied. Maybe we could still work out a deal that would bring Terry to Oakland.
Just for fun: how about another blockbuster deal involving the Hawks and Warriors - <u>GS receives</u>: PF - Shareef Abdur-Rahim PG/SG - Jason Terry PG - Dan Dickau <u>ATL receives</u>: PG - Nick Van Exel SG - Jason Richardson PF - Troy Murphy Conditional Draft Pick If Nick is unhappy now, wait till he finds out he's headed to the ATL! In all seriousness, I think this trade would work for both teams. Golden State would get an all-star PF with Abdur-Rahim, who is already familiar with the bay area and it's fans. And Terry, who can fill either guard spot, opening up space for Pietrus when he's ready. Along with a back-up PG in Dickau, to spell Terry and or Claxton. Atlanta benefits by receiving more young blood with a lot of upside in Richardson and Murphy. Van Exel can obviously hold down the PG spot competently and the Hawks would also get another draft pick thrown into the mix. In addition, Boris Diaw will also be able to work his way into the lineup more easily. He truly is the future of the franchise. GS Starting 5 PG - Terry/Claxton SG - Terry/Pietrus SF - Dunleavy PF - Abdur-Rahim C - Dampier ATL Starting 5 PG - Van Exel SG - Richardson SF - Jackson/Diaw PF - Murphy C - Ratliff I didn't research the cap numbers, this is strictly for fun. Just thought I would throw it out there...does it sound too lopsided either way?
That trade seems like a good one, but I don't want to see both Rahim and Terry come here. Warriors would be almost like the Hawks, with a upgrade Center/SF. I would hate to see Murphy go, it's only his 3rd year, he has a lot to show me before I would want to see him go. I also don't want to see J-Rich leave, he's a monster when everything is clicking, he will be a all star guard very soon. And most of all this would break the team up IMO. I want this unit to stick together, I wouldn't mind seeing Van Exel leave for Terry though.
