SLAM Magazine's 50 Greatest Player's

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  1. Vyper

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    SLAM Magazine's 75 Greatest Player's

    Check the list,do you guys agree or disagree?


    Edit : I edited it and put 'em together.


    <u>SLAM Magazine's 75 Greatest Players Of All-Time</u>
    (June 9,2003 issue of Slam Classic)

    1. Michael Jordan
    2. Wilt Chamberlain
    3. Oscar Robertson
    4. Bill Russell
    5. Magic Johnson
    6. Larry Bird
    7. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    8. Jerry West
    9. Shaquille O'Neal
    10. Julius Erving
    11. Elgin Baylor
    12. Hakeem Olajuwon
    13. Karl Malone
    14. Bob Pettit
    15. John Havlicek
    16. Moses Malone
    17. Isiah Thomas
    18. John Stockton
    19. Charles Barkley
    20. Walt Frazier
    21. Rick Barry
    22. Bob Cousy
    23. Elbin Hayes
    24. Dave Cowens
    25. George Gervin
    26. Kevin McHale
    27. Dominique Wilkins
    28. Patrick Ewing
    29. Willis Reed
    30. Wes Unseld
    31. George Mikan
    32. Earl Monroe
    33. Nate Thurmond
    34. Dolph Schayes
    35. Walt Bellamy
    36. David Robinson
    37. Billy Cunningham
    38. Paul Arizin
    39. Dave Debusschere
    40. Alex English
    41. Scottie Pippen
    42. Nate Archibald
    43. Adrian Dantley
    44. Clyde Drexler
    45. Bernard King
    46. Bob McAdoo
    47. Gary Payton
    48. Artis Gilmore
    49. Jerry Lucas
    50. Pete Maravich
    51. Hal Greer
    52. Reggie Miller
    53. Allen Iverson
    54. Dan Issel
    55. Tim Duncan
    56. Robert Parish
    57. James Worthy
    58. Sam Jones
    59. Kobe Bryant
    60. Lenny Wilkens
    61. Jason Kidd
    62. Bob Lanier
    63. Dennis Johnson
    64. Chris Webber
    65. Chris Mullin
    66. Mark Aguire
    67. Connie Hawkins
    68. Spencer Haywood
    69. Dennis Rodman
    70. Kevin Garnett
    71. Dave Bing
    72. Alonzo Mourning
    73. Bill Walton
    74. Grant Hill
    75. Tracy McGrady
     
  2. TimFlem

    TimFlem JBB JustBBall Member

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    Yeah I agree with everything except that Pistol Pete is at the bottom of the list.
     
  3. rjnavarrete

    rjnavarrete BBW Member

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    Kobe? Sure he may not be a good public figure (Because of the rape accusations), but he is one of the greatest players in my mind! Who can create a shot for himself like he does? Who has the record for youngest ever on the All-Defensive first team?(KOBE does!) Who is the youngest all-star, threepeater, etc., etc....The list goes on and on! Kobe should be on that list! Also I disagree with Shaq being that high on the list... Kobe for sure!
     
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    Trail_Blazer76 JBB JustBBall Member

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    I actually have this issue, and I am pretty sure that it was the 75 greatest. Why didn't you post the last 25?
     
  5. jbbKing James

    jbbKing James JBB Banned Member

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    Nice to see Wilkins get respect, him not being on the NBA's official 50 greatest list is a true joke.
     
  6. Vyper

    Vyper -Vintage '73-

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">I actually have this issue, and I am pretty sure that it was the 75 greatest. Why didn't you post the last 25?</div>



    Just waitin' to see if anyone would ask if there was more... [​IMG]

    51. Hal Greer
    52. Reggie Miller
    53. Allen Iverson
    54. Dan Issel
    55. Tim Duncan
    56. Robert Parish
    57. James Worthy
    58. Sam Jones
    59. Kobe Bryant
    60. Lenny Wilkens
    61. Jason Kidd
    62. Bob Lanier
    63. Dennis Johnson
    64. Chris Webber
    65. Chris Mullin
    66. Mark Aguire
    67. Connie Hawkins
    68. Spencer Haywood
    69. Dennis Rodman
    70. Kevin Garnett
    71. Dave Bing
    72. Alonzo Mourning
    73. Bill Walton
    74. Grant Hill
    75. Tracy McGrady
     
  7. rjnavarrete

    rjnavarrete BBW Member

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    Just some Things

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Black Widow:</div><div class="quote_post">Just waitin' to see if anyone would ask if there was more... [​IMG]

    51. Hal Greer
    52. Reggie Miller
    53. Allen Iverson
    54. Dan Issel
    55. Tim Duncan
    56. Robert Parish
    57. James Worthy
    58. Sam Jones
    59. Kobe Bryant
    60. Lenny Wilkens
    61. Jason Kidd
    62. Bob Lanier
    63. Dennis Johnson
    64. Chris Webber
    65. Chris Mullin
    66. Mark Aguire
    67. Connie Hawkins
    68. Spencer Haywood
    69. Dennis Rodman
    70. Kevin Garnett
    71. Dave Bing
    72. Alonzo Mourning
    73. Bill Walton
    74. Grant Hill
    75. Tracy McGrady</div>

    O now Kobe is on. Good. Actually, I beleieve Kobe should still be a bit higher. Does Iverson have three rings on his finger? Scroing titles and that's it for Iverson. He doesn't belong above the like of KG, The Worm, Kobe, Etc. Besides, since when do guys that make their coaches quit belong on the list hgiher than other players who deserve the higher spots? I think it is an overall good list though. C-Webb above KG? Also not true. Just wait like 20 years when they come out with this list again. Kobe will be higher as well as KG, AI, and Reggie. Also, T-Mac below Grant Hill? Grant Hill missed like half of his career because of his dumb ankle. Grant "Emergency Room" Hill...HAHA saw it somewhere else on this site and thought it was hilarious! I also don't believe Duncan should be that high. Only one ring. Kobe? THREE count them! and Kobe is just better...END of STORY!


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  8. Vyper

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PrimeTime:</div><div class="quote_post">O now Kobe is on. Good. Actually, I beleieve Kobe should still be a bit higher. Does Iverson have three rings on his finger? Scroing titles and that's it for Iverson. He doesn't belong above the like of KG, The Worm, Kobe, Etc. Besides, since when do guys that make their coaches quit belong on the list hgiher than other players who deserve the higher spots? I think it is an overall good list though. C-Webb above KG? Also not true. Just wait like 20 years when they come out with this list again. Kobe will be higher as well as KG, AI, and Reggie. Also, T-Mac below Grant Hill? Grant Hill missed like half of his career because of his dumb ankle. Grant "Emergency Room" Hill...HAHA saw it somewhere else on this site and thought it was hilarious! I also don't believe Duncan should be that high. Only one ring. Kobe? THREE count them! and Kobe is just better...END of STORY!


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    You make it sound like Kobe won those rings single handedly. And I agree with the list..Grant Hill in his prime years was a better all around player than T-Mac is now.
     
  9. cubanballer

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    duncan has to be a lot higher -definitely top 50 and should be top 25 once his career is over.

    no way pippen is on top of clyde drexler.

    i wouldn't rate shaq that high. one beef i have with shaq is that he really hasn't had competition at his position. he was too young when hakeem, ewing, sabonis, robinson, etc were in their primes and he's getting old and injure-prone to bang with yao or whoever comes next - which may not be anyone else, since the back-to-the-basket, brute-force center is an endangered species right now. not his fault, but i believe that if shaq had been playing five or seven years earlier, he wouldn't dominate hakeem as he does nesterovic or ylgauskas.
     
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    oh wait, and did i see kg under chris webber??!! that's why i let my slam subscription lapse.
     
  11. Purple N Gold

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PrimeTime:</div><div class="quote_post">O now Kobe is on. Good. Actually, I beleieve Kobe should still be a bit higher. Does Iverson have three rings on his finger? Scroing titles and that's it for Iverson. He doesn't belong above the like of KG, The Worm, Kobe, Etc. Besides, since when do guys that make their coaches quit belong on the list hgiher than other players who deserve the higher spots? I think it is an overall good list though. C-Webb above KG? Also not true. Just wait like 20 years when they come out with this list again. Kobe will be higher as well as KG, AI, and Reggie. Also, T-Mac below Grant Hill? Grant Hill missed like half of his career because of his dumb ankle. Grant "Emergency Room" Hill...HAHA saw it somewhere else on this site and thought it was hilarious! I also don't believe Duncan should be that high. Only one ring. Kobe? THREE count them! and Kobe is just better...END of STORY!


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    Everyone of your posts about Kobe is biased. C'mon now, first of all Duncan won 2 rings, second of all, rings aren't everything. In your posts it sounds like you have to win a ring to be put as a great player. "Kobe is just better?" That's funny how you say the only thing about Iverson is his scoring titles. [​IMG] If that's the only thing you have to say for AI something is wrong, IMO he has the heart to win more than anybody in this league, and a lot would agree, and don't forget led his team to the NBA Finals with nothing a lot more than they have now with the exception of Mutombo, and a few others. Iverson took the game to another level being a SG and only being 5'11-6'0, so he deserves to be where he is. I pretty much agree with this, good list. And I also feel the same as Black Widow, G Hill in his prime was a better all around player than T-Mac.
     
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    nice list...i pretty much agree...
     
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    The list you could say is perfect in my opinion. Everyones in there respected places for a reason.
     
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    Payton does not deserve to be ahead of Pistol Pete. To me, he is one of the best All-Time, but everyone has their own opinions though.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting cubanballer:</div><div class="quote_post">shaq is that he really hasn't had competition at his position. he was too young when hakeem, ewing, sabonis, robinson, etc </div>

    LMAO

    Shaq's first 3 years in the league he had every center in his prime.

    Ewing
    Olajuwon
    Robinson
    Mutombo
    Daugherty
    Smits

    Shaq killed them on many occasions, even in All-Star games where he had to face them all. Those Magic-Knicks battles were awesome and emotion filled. Though Shaq's Magic were swept in the Finals by Olajuwon's Rockets, his numbers were great.

    Shaq is a top player of all time, like it or not.
     
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    Why is T-Mac there?? and why is Chris Webber on top of KG? PrimeTime you make it sound like Kobe is better then MJ.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting cubanballer:</div><div class="quote_post">
    no way pippen is on top of clyde drexler.
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    Oh really? Care to explain why?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh really? Care to explain why?</div>

    He should not have to, I agree.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh really? Care to explain why?</div>


    I personally think Pippen belongs over Clyde.

    Offensively,Clyde has the slight edge but defensively there is no contest whatsoever. I mean come on,Scottie used to defensively give Jordan all he could handle..IMO Scottie is a better all-around player than Clyde.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh really? Care to explain why?</div>

    no problem. just a few stats:

    Scottie Pippen: 16 seasons, 18,804 points, 6085 assists, 7426 rebounds (per game averages of 16.2 points, 5.2 assists, 6.4 rebounds), 7-time All Star (one MVP) 20 triple doubles, etc

    Clyde Drexler: 15 seasons (one less) 22,195 points, 6125 assists, 6677 rebounds (per game averages of 20.4 points, 5.6 assists, 6.1 rebounds) 9-time All Star, 24 triple doubles, including one that was one assist shy of a quadruple double, etc

    Stats wise, Pippen is only better in rebounds and marginally. But Clyde was better all around. Now, stats only tell part of the story. There's a huge subjective component in comparing player vs. player, and in my opinion, having seen them both in their prime, Clyde was just a much better player, more rounded and way more exciting to watch. But hey, it's just my opinion.
     

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