What to do with Brad Miller when Webber returns

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  1. $actown Dyme

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    Brad Miller's season has been terrific so far and you can't just take that and put it on the bench just because Webber's back. So what changes should the Kings make when Webber returns?
     
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    Rick Adelman is gonna have a very tough time deciding...but i think that brad miller may switch over to center leaving vlade on the bench
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting P_Stojakovic16:</div><div class="quote_post">Rick Adelman is gonna have a very tough time deciding...but i think that brad miller may switch over to center leaving vlade on the bench</div>

    The only problem with that is that Brad Miller has only played center in the east. Even there he never had to play much D because the only other scoring "center" in the east is JO.

    Plus if he ever got tired, JO was there to back him up. I really don't see Brad Miller playing center for the Kings successfully, but it is probably what will happen.
     
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    ^ That's what's gonna happen. Vlade said himself that he can't play long minutes anymore.
     
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    Brad Miller most likely will not be able to guard a dominant center like shaq very well
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting P_Stojakovic16:</div><div class="quote_post">Brad Miller most likely will not be able to guard a dominant center like shaq very well</div>Name me a center that can.

    It will be a tough decision. Vlade is also important to this team, they need his passing.
     
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    That would be the smart thing to do. You have to keep Brad in the starting lineup with how great he's been doing this year. Just move him to Center and when he gets tired, put Vlade in, simple as that.
     
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    But who's to say that Vlade would appreciate being benched for someone who just came to the team? Since he said he can't put in a lot of minutes anymore, maybe he would appreciate the time off the court, but I dunno....
     
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    They may just bench Brad Miller as 2nd string after Vlade, but this is a hard time for Rick Adelman to decide.
     
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    That wouldn't be fair to Brad Miller though. He puts up better numbers than Vlade every game.
     
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    That's true, but often Bobby Jackson puts up better numbers than Mike Bibby. I have a feeling that Adelman will pioneer a sort of 6th man/7th man situation, where Jackson and Miller come off the bench to provide a boost when Bibby and Divac get tired. And whether he comes off the bench or starts, look for Miller to get the most minutes at the position, and also to backup Webber.

    It's possible that with a 3 man rotation among the two positions, each guy will still get his minutes. With 96 minutes between them, each guy would average 32 minutes a game. Chris will undoubtedly play more, and Vlade can't handle that many minutes, so we'll probably see a 40-32-24 breakdown, or close to that. Brad has already proven that he can play both positions equally well.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">It's possible that with a 3 man rotation among the two positions, each guy will still get his minutes. With 96 minutes between them, each guy would average 32 minutes a game. Chris will undoubtedly play more, and Vlade can't handle that many minutes, so we'll probably see a 40-32-24 breakdown, or close to that. Brad has already proven that he can play both positions equally well.</div>

    Well said. They will all get their fair share of minutes... with Webber getting the bulk during the later part of the season. But it is still a matter of who wants to come off the bench. Gotta ask yourself a couple Q...

    Can Vlade... as old as he is ( [​IMG] ) handle sitting for a while after warming up and come and play as efficent as the Kings need him?

    All I can say is it will be interesting to see what happens. And how many trial errors they do before they get it right.
     
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    Adelman better not bench Miller. He's gonna be the X-factor come playoff time.
     
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    Nobody is going to like this but I think that they should put Webber on the bench once he gets back. The Kings obviously are not hurting without him. I am watching the Kings-Suns game right now and they are playing very well. I personally don't think that they should shove Webber right into their team because he will undoubtedly command 20 or so touches a night. I know someone is going to come and show me some previous Webber numbers, but numbers aren't everything, expecially when your team is already in first place. Webber may be important come playoff time (I use may because he didn't get it done against the Lakers two years ago), but once he gets back from injury, they should not see how valuable he is immediately.
     
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    I think Adelman will put Miller on the 5. He knows Vlade is getting old and he can't play big minutes anymore... But when he plays he can be an important factor and give some extra boost from the bench... But I don't think it matters much 'cause Brad WILL play more minutes than 'Lad 'cause he's younger AND puts up better numbers than him...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllBoutDaPacers:</div><div class="quote_post">Nobody is going to like this but I think that they should put Webber on the bench once he gets back. The Kings obviously are not hurting without him. I am watching the Kings-Suns game right now and they are playing very well. I personally don't think that they should shove Webber right into their team because he will undoubtedly command 20 or so touches a night. I know someone is going to come and show me some previous Webber numbers, but numbers aren't everything, expecially when your team is already in first place. Webber may be important come playoff time (I use may because he didn't get it done against the Lakers two years ago), but once he gets back from injury, they should not see how valuable he is immediately.</div>

    I partially agree. Benching him would be good, especially since he's coming off a big injury and he'll need to take it easy, but I don't think that they should just put him on the bench like that; I think Adelman should pick one of two options: splitting playing time between Webber and Miller, or two, bench Divac.
     
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    Miller on the 5,
    C.Webb on the 4

    makes complete since. Vlade can come off the bench and give great minutes. this will also help vladi stay fresher. period
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gameday77:</div><div class="quote_post">Miller on the 5,
    C.Webb on the 4

    makes complete since. Vlade can come off the bench and give great minutes. this will also help vladi stay fresher. period</div>

    Right, it does, BUT...

    Can't Vlade give great minutes starting? Miller will still play more than him. I just think that its easier for an older player to start with a younger guy coming off the bench, since physically its harder for an older player to come strong after cooling down after the warmups. This way, Vlade can warm up, and still be warm when he starts, whereas the young Brad Miller can come off the bench and be more effective than Divac would have been coming off the bench.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting sactown_dyme:</div><div class="quote_post">I partially agree. Benching him would be good, especially since he's coming off a big injury and he'll need to take it easy, but I don't think that they should just put him on the bench like that; I think Adelman should pick one of two options: splitting playing time between Webber and Miller, or two, bench Divac.</div>

    agreed.

    I like the idea of the 3 man rotation. However, they should ween WEbber n and give him gradually more minutes. IT will still be Vlade @ the 5 and then Miller @ the4 and then i would say that Divac and WEbber would start(for Starmans reasons) and then gointo the 3 man rotation suggested above.
     
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    I think Vlade will come off the bench just like the Rockets forward rotation right now. Kelvin Cato is not essentially better than Maurice Taylor but he still slides over to centre whne Yao comes out and Taylor comes in. The Kings might do the same thing when Webber comes out. With these three, any formation Adelman puts out will be a nigtmare for defenders with their height and pure strength.
     

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