<div class="quote_poster">Quoting sportsrock37:</div><div class="quote_post">We have a shot, but there's no way it's gonna happen if we don't start playing defense. We are playing sorry defense and our offense is still struggling to find a consistent 2nd scoring option.</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TimFlem:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah I agree with you sportsrock. If you watched the game against Memphis all you see is the Magic walking back on D. At least they could jog but they walked. Drew Gooden tried to stay on the Magic sided pretending to press for a little while. But mainly that's all the Magic have done was walk walk walk. This and uncontested shots cost them the Game at Memphis and some others ones as well. If we keep on doing these things we will never make the playoffs. IMO</div> well I guess Magic heard you guys because yesterday night against the Wizards we played some serious Defense thats why we got the Win and Declerq had some good rebouns same with howard and bogans.. "I told the guys before the game, 'The way we've been playing in the second half defensively, let's start the game out that way,'" McGrady said. "They responded." update(as of games played in 1/10/04): Atlantic <font color="Green">New Jersey </font> 20 -15 <font color="Red">Boston 19 - 19 Philadelphia 17 - 19 Miami 15 - 21 New York 14 - 23 Washington 9 - 25</font> <font color="Navy">Orlando 9 - 28</font> Central <font color="Green">Indiana 28 - 10 Detroit 23 - 13 New Orleans 22 - 14 </font> <font color="DarkOrange">Milwaukee 20 - 16 Toronto 18 - 16 </font> <font color="Red">Chicago 11 - 25 Cleveland 11 - 25 Atlanta 10 - 27 </font> <font color="Green">Green = Most likely making the playoffs unless a horrible losing streak takes place.</font> <font color="DarkOrange">Dark Orange= teams that could have a playoff spot if they win a lot or they could lose a spot at the playoffs if some not so long losing streaks takes place.</font> <font color="Navy">Blue= Orlando Magic..with 9 wins and 28 loses.</font> Now this is horrible for the East , but for the Magic is looking great since we still have a shot at the playoffs..as you can see there are only 4 teams in green which means that leaves 4 other teams that could make the playoffs and only 2 teams in orange which means 1 of them if not both could or could not go into the playoffs.. shot of the magic making the playoffs depends on: How many wins we can get. all teams in red to lose a lot of games.(rate of 1-3 there and here..) teams in orange to lose a lot of games.(rate of 2-4 there and here..) so as you guys we still have a PRETTY GOOD shot at making the playoffs.. if you see the schedule of all red and orange teams a lot of west teams road trips and home games with west teams coming.while the Magic have a long trip with east teams..including the last 7 if im not wrong..
I thought teams had to be .500 or higher to make it in to the playoffs. Magic 9-28? I don't think so.
i agree the magic got off to a really bad start but if they make some adjustments trades to beef up there d. They will be awesome and a sure contender for a playoff spot.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ice Breaker:</div><div class="quote_post">The East could be as forgiving as it was in 1994-95 when the Boston Celtics made the postseason with just 35 victories.</div> 35 wins means they went to the playoffs 35-47 whats that like? .426? theres an under .500 so yes you can go to the playoffs under .500 specially in the east
We have a shot if we play a full game of basketball every night. None of this lazy play. Lets get back on track as of now. If we lose too many this week, it will all be over. Anyway, I want Okafor. BTW nicely laid out thread.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jump:</div><div class="quote_post">We have a shot if we play a full game of basketball every night. None of this lazy play. Lets get back on track as of now. If we lose too many this week, it will all be over. Anyway, I want Okefor. BTW nicely laid out thread.</div> Definitely Okefor would make such a big difference.
We could make the playoffs now really. If we just play all our games like when we played the Wizard and the Cavaliers we could make the playoffs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TimFlem:</div><div class="quote_post">We could make the playoffs now really. If we just play all our games like when we played the Wizard and the Cavaliers we could make the playoffs.</div> Note the teams which the Magic played well against. The wizards have won 9 games and the Cavs have won 11. These are sorry teams that the Magic have won against. This is unrealistic to believe that the magic will beat the mediocre or elite teams. Besides, the magic beat the wizards only by 9 points. Right now, I think the playoffs are an unrealistic goal for the Magic. I know that many people love the magic, but lets look at reality.
Actually I think the best game was against the Spurs even tho we lost , if we just played like we played against the Spurs(25-11) in San Antonio we could go very far..or maybe how we played in that win in Indianapolis against the Pacers(28-10) if we play games like that we'll really make a change this season.
The magic are at least 9 games out of the playoffs. Unless multiple teams go on a Magic-Like freefall in the standings, the Magic have no chance at the playoffs. There is only so far a team can drop before there is no way to get back up. If the Magic had a high caliber team like the Lakers, Kings or Spurs, coming back to make the playoffs would be possible, but the Magic, or any East team for that matter does not have that ability. The Magic will miss the playoffs this year. I guarantee you this.
We have a shot, but it's not a very good one. We would need to go on a monster run and hope a bunch of teams start to stink. Which isn't really that good of a chance. I would rather us lose and give guys such as Gaines, Hunter, Zaza some playing time and get a top pick, then attempt to make the playoffs and get stuck in the middle of the pack and get around the 7th pick in the draft and possibly draft a bust.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TMac_OwNz:</div><div class="quote_post">"I told the guys before the game, 'The way we've been playing in the second half defensively, let's start the game out that way,'" McGrady said. "They responded."</div> Ok i am gonna argue for the sake of arguing and just because i feel like i have some good points here.. For that quote.. Good Job Tracy.. Thats the kind of thing you need to say to the media and to the team. Thats what you say.. Good job on that one Tracy.. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TMac_OwNz:</div><div class="quote_post"> update(as of games played in 1/10/04): Atlantic <font color="Green">New Jersey </font> 20 -15 <font color="Red">Boston 19 - 19 Philadelphia 17 - 19 Miami 15 - 21 New York 14 - 23 Washington 9 - 25</font> <font color="Navy">Orlando 9 - 28</font> Central <font color="Green">Indiana 28 - 10 Detroit 23 - 13 New Orleans 22 - 14 </font> <font color="DarkOrange">Milwaukee 20 - 16 Toronto 18 - 16 </font> <font color="Red">Chicago 11 - 25 Cleveland 11 - 25 Atlanta 10 - 27 </font> <font color="Green">Green = Most likely making the playoffs unless a horrible losing streak takes place.</font> <font color="DarkOrange">Dark Orange= teams that could have a playoff spot if they win a lot or they could lose a spot at the playoffs if some not so long losing streaks takes place.</font> <font color="Navy">Blue= Orlando Magic..with 9 wins and 28 loses.</font></div> Well according to your chart... It's a little inacurate.. Theres 8 teams that make the playoffs. So Boston and Phily would make it also.. All of those teams in the playoffs SO FAR.. Should and very well make it.(give or take a couple of them, maybe the bucks, But i dont know with the east anything, plus i dont follow the Bucks.) <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TMac_OwnZ:</div><div class="quote_post">Now this is horrible for the East , but for the Magic is looking great since we still have a shot at the playoffs..as you can see there are only 4 teams in green which means that leaves 4 other teams that could make the playoffs and only 2 teams in orange which means 1 of them if not both could or could not go into the playoffs..</div> Still have a shot? Wow.. Its a HUGE Shot.. To make the playoffs after starting out 1-19 is pretty tough.. You don't relise that not only the magic have to win a ton of games to get back on track to even have a chance, but so many other teams have to lose alot of games... I see youve made yourself clear, that not everyone will be in a color.. but still you should put Boston and Philly in Orange, because there is something wrong if they dont make it.. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TMac_OwnZ:</div><div class="quote_post"> shot of the magic making the playoffs depends on: How many wins we can get. all teams in red to lose a lot of games.(rate of 1-3 there and here..) teams in orange to lose a lot of games.(rate of 2-4 there and here..) so as you guys we still have a PRETTY GOOD shot at making the playoffs.. if you see the schedule of all red and orange teams a lot of west teams road trips and home games with west teams coming.while the Magic have a long trip with east teams..including the last 7 if im not wrong.</div> How Many is a good question.. The way they have been playing.. Its not playoff like.. They don't deserve to be in the playoffs. And thats it.. They are not a playoff team this year.. They might have the talent to be a team in the Eastern Confrence Playoffs. But they sure arnt playing like it.. Once again. I would not say PRETTY GOOD.. How about one of those situations in football.. Like One team needs Three Teams to win.. They Need To Win.. And whole lot of other crazy stuff.. I seriously will be shocked if they make it.. When you talk about schedules too.. Everyone plays everyone in the NBA.. Correct me if i am wrong, but i think you play everyone in the West/East(which ever you are not in) Twice.. The people in your confrence that are not in you're divison, three times. And everyone in your divison four times. So basically you are asking for the Magic to beat the same people that the others have to lose to.. when you have teams like Dallas and Sacramento that can really kill you with points.. The Magic do not stand a chance with the schedule battle.. So I am not really happy with saying they have a GOOD SHOT at it.. Because quite frankly.. The dont stand a chance with the way they are playing... And ill go back to something someone else said... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> <div style="padding-left: 20px;"> Quote: Originally Posted by TimFlem We could make the playoffs now really. If we just play all our games like when we played the Wizard and the Cavaliers we could make the playoffs. </div> Note the teams which the Magic played well against. The wizards have won 9 games and the Cavs have won 11. These are sorry teams that the Magic have won against. This is unrealistic to believe that the magic will beat the mediocre or elite teams. Besides, the magic beat the wizards only by 9 points. Right now, I think the playoffs are an unrealistic goal for the Magic. I know that many people love the magic, but lets look at reality.</div> You could not be any more right.. They played well against terrible teams like themselves.. Unless they come out and play like against two or three GOOD teams... Then they dont stand a chance.. You can't say that they are back just of two big wins over two lower teams with bad records like themselves... Maybe if they didnt go down hill after that 7-10 streak then maybe they have a shot.. But they have shown me that they arn't a playoff team, and they sure arn't playing like it. Ive got to say... we have to play to develope.. Get time to Bogans, Gaines, Zaza, The Young Guys... Get this team ready, and focus on the draft and the future...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ZeroToOne50182:</div><div class="quote_post">You could not be any more right.. They played well against terrible teams like themselves.. Unless they come out and play like against two or three GOOD teams... Then they dont stand a chance.. You can't say that they are back just of two big wins over two lower teams with bad records like themselves... </div> ugh..I already answered to that same thing..but I guess you missed it..here... Actually I think the best game was against the Spurs even tho we lost , if we just played like we played against the Spurs(25-11) in San Antonio we could go very far..or maybe how we played in that win in Indianapolis against the Pacers(28-10) if we play games like that we'll really make a change this season. I could name a few more games against good teams..but just too lazy right now..
The thing with the Spurs game is that we DIDN'T win. I agree we played really good in that game, but we can't be proud to just play good against the good teams. We have to somehow get W's out of them. I'd much rather play horrible and still beat them, then play good and lose. With the way we're going, I don't think there is anyway to make the playoffs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting sportsrock37:</div><div class="quote_post">The thing with the Spurs game is that we DIDN'T win. I agree we played really good in that game, but we can't be proud to just play good against the good teams. We have to somehow get W's out of them. I'd much rather play horrible and still beat them, then play good and lose. With the way we're going, I don't think there is anyway to make the playoffs.</div> I agree... You can't be satisfied and say you can win if you play like that... The Spurs are are just one of the good teams out there that you can play good against them.. But if you dont play better.. You cannot win.. Its as simple as that..
it was an exception..they played their excellent defense(top 3 in nba.) in the last 5 Mins and we played the worst offense(weird) if you judge 3 quaters and a half..it's magic game..but things happen.
as of games played in 1/10/04: <font color="Green">Sixers 17 - 20 </font> <font color="Red">Miami 15 - 22 </font> <font color="Green">New York 15 - 23 </font> <font color="Green">Washington 10 - 25 </font> <font color="Red">Pacers 28 - 11 Hornets 22 - 15</font> <font color="Green">Bulls 12 - 25</font> <font color="Red">Milwakee 20-17 Hawks 10 - 28</font> Red:Lose Green:Win so hawks 1 lose away from us and we are 1 win away from them..soon not the worst record in the NBA.. and milwakee on its way to 20 loses , sixers in 20 already...miami in 22...boston plays a west team tomorrow...cleveland and new york plays west teams and sixers play orlando... you'll see em coming..we just gotta win games..
I'm still not buying the thought of the Magic making the playoffs. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting :</div><div class="quote_post">so hawks 1 lose away from us and we are 1 win away from them..soon not the worst record in the NBA.. </div> The Hawks aren't even in the playoff picture.. They, like the Magic are currently written out from any playoff thoughts. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting :</div><div class="quote_post">milwakee on its way to 20 loses </div> Milwaukee has played well and surpassed my expectations. Who knows, things could turn around for them. They have a solid bench and a great coach leading them to victories. The Magic are well past 20 losses and the Bucks are only 20-17. I'd take a record of 20-17 over 9-28 anyday. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting :</div><div class="quote_post"> sixers in 20 already...miami in 22...boston plays a west team tomorrow...cleveland and new york plays west teams and sixers play orlando...</div> You can't base the Magic's chances of making the playoffs by other teams fortunes. The Magic have only won 9 games. The teams they beat were the Knicks, Suns, Hawks, Pacers, Warriors, Raptors, Cavs and Wizards (twice) Excluding the Pacers, the Magic have yet to beat a great team. Emeka Okafor would be a great asset for any team, but he's 6-9 and built for the power foward position. If the Magic were to draft him, they cannot have Juwan Howard, Drew Gooden and Oakfor all on the same team. They could try and play one of them at center, but true power fowards should stay at their natural position. It's pretty simple. The Magic made too many offseason transactions which changed their entire way of play. They have the talent this season, they just can't play together. If you have no team chemistry, you sure as hell won't be going anywhere.
Even if they do, it wouldn't be very well deserved or earned. Things have been so dodgy, inconsistent and just plain bad this year. It'll be pure luck if they make it, although if they do I hope they give it their all and try to make up for the terrible season performance.
Even if they do by some chance make it.. Theres no way and hell they would make it out of the first round.. They would face a team like the Pacers, Pistons or Nets.. And thats pretty much a tough cookie to eat..
