Jamison for Rasheed?

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  1. Blinger0723

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    "The Knicks' new boss was attempting to make Rasheed Wallace a Knick, but talks with Portland broke down yesterday and the Blazers' bad-boy power forward appeared headed to Dallas as part of a package for Antawn Jamison, sources said."


    http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/44773.htm
     
  2. Ravenous

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    I think the mavs would have to trade more than jamison to get wallace....maybe throw in travis best or tony delk!
     
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    I agree, Wallace is far a more significant player than Jamison currently is.
     
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    Wallace would not help Dallas.

    Sheed is just another perimeter forward that needs the basketball to be effective.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Wallace would not help Dallas.

    Sheed is just another perimeter forward that needs the basketball to be effective.</div>
    I agree. Dallas needs rebounding, something both Wallace and Ilgauskas will not provide much of. I think they should try to trade someone to Atlanta for Nazr Mohammed instead.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr_Infante:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree, Wallace is far a more significant player than Jamison currently is.</div>

    Yeah, I think this could really help the Mavs out. He adds a bit more offense with better range and more consistency. He could be another scorer to this team, sure they are defenders out there, but I rather have a guy like Sheed than a 'defense only' player.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Wallace would not help Dallas.

    Sheed is just another perimeter forward that needs the basketball to be effective.</div>


    I completely agree. Rasheed is not a down low threat. He can't do a single thing without the rock in his hands either. They need someone that can score in the paint.
     
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    What are y'all talking about? Rasheed is a terrific low post player. The problem is he wants to play the 3 spot too much. He is extremely unselfish when it comes to basketball, but his attitude is a different story altogether.
    I would welcome Jamison as a Blazer just to be rid of Rashweed.
     
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    ...... I'm with Clyde. WHAT ARE YOU GUYS SMOKING!? He's a good low post player, got good range. Selfishness isn't as much of a problem as playing time and attitude will be.

    Jamison is the model citizen. I'm still sad about the Warriors losing him and Gilb. Nonetheless, the Blazers would be lucky to get Jamison from the Mavs for a troublemaker.
     
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    More news on a possible trade

    It is said to be Antawn Jamison, Tony Delk and Edward Najera for Rasheed Wallace

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">As he watched from the bench dressed in team sweats, all indications were that trade talks were heating up between the Blazers and Dallas, with the complicated negotiations centering on Wallace and his $17 million salary.

    Blazers general manager John Nash wouldn't comment on the negotiations, or even confirm them, saying that the glut of trade speculation "is only going to get worse" as the Feb. 19 trading deadline approaches.

    The speculation before Tuesday's game not only was that the Mavericks were prepared to make a deal involving Antawn Jamison, Tony Delk and Edward Najera, but also that the deal is imminent and that the Blazers held Wallace out of Tuesday's game to help ensure that he passes his physical.
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    Funny how Jamison can go from signing a huge contract worth about 5 years, thinking his future was going to be in Warrior land, to possibly about to get traded to his 3rd team, 4 total.
     
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    Wow! This will be a rip-off for the Warriors. If the trade rumor by allnet goes through, the Blazers will get much more than Wallace deserves. They'd get Jamison to take some of the scoring load off Randolph, a proven shooter and a hard-working forward. I wouldn't have worried for Portland if it was Jamison for Wallace, but now they'd get two more great bench energy guys.
     
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    I actually would keep jamison its hard for jamison to switch from a star player in Warriors to a bench guy and wallace loves the outside
     
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    I am surprised that so many players think Wallace is better than Jamison. If I had to pick between these two players, I'd pick Jamison with ease. They both have inside and outside games, watch them play and look at their percentages.

    I think Wallace is a better mid range shooter, but Jamison is better in the low blocks. And whoever says Jamison can't shoot from outside just isn't with the program. Watch the man play.

    Maybe its just attitude, but I really would prefer Jamison. He is playing a supporting role in Dallas so his numbers don't look as good as Sheed's, but they would be if he was in a more crucial role.
     
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    I totally agree with starman. Jamison is a great player whose numbers have dropped because he is coming off the bench on a team that already has plenty of offensive options. Jamison is a great player that has much to offer the Blazers. If I were portland, I would make this deal in a heartbeat. Sheed is all about reputation, that's why everyone things this is a lopsided trade. It all depends on what the teams are looking for. Portland would get someone with a good image, and Dallas would get some interior presence, although I don't know if Sheed would do the role that Dallas wants him to. Sheed is all about Sheed, not helping a team win.
     
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    I think this is a stupid trade for the mavericks.. they dont need low post scoring, they need DEFENSE! they give up almost 100 points a game and still are 6 games over .500.. this shows that they have no problem puttin the ball in the hoop. they should use jamison to try to get some interior D
     
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    Nah.

    Dallas would jump ALL over this deal, if it had happened.


    Dallas needs post defense. Rasheed is a good post defender, in fact, he is one of the better ones. One of the apsects of his game that is underrated his defense. That alone would help Dallas very much so. He does have a post game, but with Randolph emerging, its not much needed. Yes, he drifts outside a bit too much, but he does have the post game the Mavs could use. And his defense......yeah, Dallas would love that deal.

    Portland wouldn't. Randolph and Jamison could form the league's best sieve defense. - Which is why Portland wont do it. Coupled with the fact that Portland would rather just free up the $17 million in cap room.

    And in talking to Portland fans, the general consensus was that they were VERY glad this trade never went through.
     
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    but they lost a good player for jamison so they wouldn't give him up that easy
     
  19. starman85

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    I agree that Sheed is a great post defender. I believe he passed Sam Perkins as the alltime blocks leader at Carolina.

    But they need a center, not another forward, whatever they do. Antoine Walker and Dirk can rebound, Dirk and Bradley can block shots, so could Raef when he was there. That's not what they need, not just those components. The Mavericks need a player who will CLOG the middle, a big man. Sheed is no clogger, neither is Bradley, who could hardly clog a drainpipe let alone the lane on an NBA court.

    That's why the Mavs wanted Dampier when dealing with the Warriors, why they are interested in Zydrunas Ilguaskas, and Theo Ratliffe, and Jamaal Magloire, and any number of guys who are BIG.

    Until they get a deal where they get that big player without having to give up too much in return(read: not anymore than Jamison and a backup guard or two), the Mavs aren't gonna budge.
     
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    Like two people said earlier, I also don't think that's the right move for Dallas. From what I've seen Jamison is one of Dallas's few bright lights right now with what he's bringing. You won't find many players who are all-star level that go to the bench and provide that kind of numbers. One great thing about Jamison this season, besides the stats, is that he isn't complaining at all about coming off the bench. He's been the positive one all season for Dallas, and I feel trading him would not be the right move. Although, if Dallas does pull the trigger, that would be a GREAT trade for Portland. If Portland gets Jamison, they will have a guy who actually fits to play at the SF spot. I still don't feel that spot is working for Wallace. If the trade does go though, I would not be surprised, but very disappointed in Dallas.
     

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