Kids would play ball when every they had the chance, now they don't want to cos they dont wanna ruin their shoes, clothes, etc....or they are lazy..but they still wear the frking headband!!!! Old games like NBA JAm, Bulls v.s. Lakers, Bulls vs. Blazers...were loved by everybody...in Bulls v.s. Lakers, each player had their own trademark move, you dont get much of that. Larry had his shot, Magic had his own special layup, JOrdan would have his reverse, and Timmy would have the UTEP 2 STEP, and Karl Malone dunked with his hand behind his back....PPl wore t-shirts of superstars, (caricatures, cartoons, etc. Bart) They made NBA videos, like Jam session, and NBA superstars series. Rappers would talk about playin' ball...AT school the courts wore full, regardless of time or weather. Now kids are into watching AND1 crap, interested in Jackass, movies, or the mall, or trying to be PIMPS...messed up generation... BUT THANKS TO JbB...I can talk to my fello ppl.!!!! Wat do u guys think about this, how can it be better.
Well,no doubt the L has alienated some fans. But they have no one to blame but themselves. The strike (over money where in most people's eyes these cats are way overpaid)the way the owners raise ticket prices and do everything to make attending and being a fan of the NBA hard to do. The prices soar in part because of the sky rocketing player salaries and the owners continue to stick it to the fans.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Black Widow:</div><div class="quote_post">Well,no doubt the L has alienated some fans. But they have no one to blame but themselves. The strike (over money where in most people's eyes these cats are way overpaid)the way the owners raise ticket prices and do everything to make attending and being a fan of the NBA hard to do. The prices soar in part because of the sky rocketing player salaries and the owners continue to stick it to the fans.</div> Doesn't mean they gotta stop makin videos and kids dont play ball that much compared as in back in the day
What the hell are you saying progidy? I can't understand your post! From what I can understand, here is my reply: A reason people stopped playing the game is because of other activities that can be done this way. People spend a lot more time indoors and on the computer. The league may have screwed the fans that want to attend the games but it is the players who care about the money and not the game. If they were not complaining about everything and just went out and played like the golden era then we would not have any problems.
These kids now don't get hoop as much because of all the technology. They got PS2, Xbox, Computers, and all that stuff. Instead of hoopin, they play NBA Live or somptin like that. Also, kids now hate hoopin in the cold. Right across the street is a basketball court, where tons of people are there during the summer but no one is there during the winter or spring. I go to the YMCA at least 5 times a week to hoop in the winter, somethin these kids need to do, instead of making up the ' It's too cold' excuse.
Yeah, I think the video game influx has affected overall fitness of the nation's kids, and that has rubbed off in the basketball realm as much as it has in others. However, if you're fat, you can still play football, and it even helps you. If you're fat in basketball, it doesn't really help you(unless you're the Round Mound of Rebound). So kids would rather go the easy route to play sports instead of working hard. You can easily notice the decline in popularity in bball by going to the grocery store. See how there might be some baseball or football cards, or even soccer(and always Pokemon or Dragon Ball Z or whatever crap kids are into nowadays), but never any basketball cards! That just bites my butt, that card manufacturers just stop marketing the game like that, but they're justified by the drop of interest in the game. Somehow, its like an endless cycle.
I agree, the NBA used to be a lot more popular...but fans are coming back..a lotta things happened (the lockout, raise in salares, low scoring) that alienated fans, but the league is doing a great job promoting it, and I think it'll only get better...
look the league was better back in the day i think the constent trading of players is a big factor kid can only love teams where when we were younger we used to love the players therfore love the team they played in eg:just say kobe leaves the lakers what do the kids do change teams or stop following the lakers
[quote name='HoustonHoopa33']I agree, the NBA used to be a lot more popular...but fans are coming back..a lotta things happened (the lockout, raise in salares, low scoring) that alienated fans, but the league is doing a igreat job promoting it, and I think it'll only get better...[/QUOYeah, fans are coming back, kids from 7-10 love the league, but the teens right now, they need to play more ball. I mean back then, they talked about ball, played ball all the time, and also played the games. They are a whole bunch of fans these days, the only problem is that they don't play ball as much, and don't play with the passion that was there 10-15 years ago. My bro graduated from HS in 94, and told me he used to play ball like everyday, at school the courst would be full of kids, now I got to school, and dont see that many ppl playing, even when they are playing they are not playing competitvely. The future looks bright, but I hope it's like the old days. My bro and his friends would try to emulate other greates, tlak to each other on the phone during an exciting game, watched the games together. Now kids do not even think of that. I looked at his year book, and all his signatures were about playing ball, like "call me up so we can play one on one" u don't get a lot of that. The league was a little bit more exciting back then, and it;s getting there. This corruption is just a phase. A lot of things back then seemed better from music to sports. I blame internet, but JBB, brings the fans together and thats a good thing.
Progidy, can I politely ask you if you are in the 7-10 range or in the teenagers range? Because you post like you're more immature than both.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobeonfire:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, it definitely will get better the way the league's marketing Lebron and Melo...</div> i hope this will help because this will be a good rivalry to watch. i dont like how where im from the nba popularity just sunk compared to how it was when MJ was in chicago. back then they loved it, now no one cares about the nba at all. its pretty sad.
From 1992 - 1998 I could go to a court in the summer and would have to wait for 5 deep before my team had a chance to play. I would go from court to court with my squad (were talking 6-7 different parks here within a 15 min drive from one an other) and play all day on Sat and Sun. These days your lucky if you can even get a decent game going in the summer. It used to be great during the Jordan era. Everyone would be sporting the latest gear and would play from sun rise to sun set. Those were the golden days and those days have come and gone. If kids had to choose between Sega Genesis/Nintendo and basketball, they would rather be playing ball. Too much new technology and games these days that keep kids in-doors. People don't realize how much Jordan exactly brought to the game of basketball. I'm hoping that LeBron will do the same.
I think that the NBA has hurt its self with its self with its over maketing of payers. This turns off the older fan. Its like the NBA markets players to the point where it seems like they are forcing you to like certain players. The NBA use to market teams led by superstars like the Showtime lakers & the Bad boy pistons. veryone Knew Magic was the superstar of that lakers squad that ruled the 80's but we also knew about the other players like Byeon Scott, James Worthy, etc. Now it seems like most of their promotion only focuses on the teams superstar like take Mcgrady & the Magic. All the NBA does is promote Mcgrady, they dont promote any of the other magic players. So the avgerage fan wont know about guys like Drew Gooden or Gorden Gireck. So it becomes a situation where if you like Mcgrady, you like the Magic. But if you dont then your not a magic fan. NBA has it setup to where people route for players instead of teams. Thats why the NBA is worse in my opinion.
Don't you think that that,in itself,speaks about not only the marketing of the league but the growing lack of fundamentals in the overall play? The NBA is basically a one-on-one game,where as back in the day it was alot more of a team game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting franchise3:</div><div class="quote_post">Progidy, can I politely ask you if you are in the 7-10 range or in the teenagers range? Because you post like you're more immature than both.</div> I'm wondering the same thing. All his posts are like that. And he starts pointless threads.
Kinda hard to say... popularity, not sure what that means. If you are saying that kids don't play BBall as much, then I'd agree with you. In my days of Jr. High we'd always be on the court... we'd stay hours after school just playing, and we'd play 'til our shoes fell off, I'd go through shoes like crazy, this was before I bought Kobe's and were scared to wear them as they may get dust on them So I'd agree with that, back in the day we played more than the kids do now, and it is because of the shoes and clothes and laziness. If you say kids don't watch or know about the NBA like they did before, I'd disagree. I think more kids today know more about the NBA, than our generation. I'd play ball with kids, and I knew every player on every team, I've always been into stats and checking out the box score, and while people played NBA Live, I was setting the rosters (I never play games unless the rosters are up to date), but most of my friends only knew Jordan, Magic, Barkley, and Bird. Now days kids know a ton of superstars (granted the NBA shoves them down our throats) and do take time to watch and play the video games. So if we're talking about taking interest in the sport, I'd say today's generation got us beat. The NBA is now a fad, it's cool to wear the clothes and shoes, and to know a few superstars here and there and talk about games you didn't see but heard about with your friends. In my day everybody played ball and pretended to know a lot about the NBA, those are the same guys who were Bulls fans, and now Lakers fans. Today however it's cool to know and watch the NBA, to sport the latest appearal, but pretend you play. I think the real downfall of the NBA will be when kids see LeBron and Kobe and are going to want to be the next High School phenom. More and more kids go directly to the draft, which means if they do get drafted, most are too young and not ready for the NBA, and the ones who don't ruined their chances of going to college and being drafted 3-4 years down the line. I'm in my 20s and don't get 5% of the money these 18 year olds are getting, I don't feel like watching greedy teenagers flooding the NBA with high school games and gangsta images, I think the NBA is really letting the true fans slip away.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Black Widow:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't you think that that,in itself,speaks about not only the marketing of the league but the growing lack of fundamentals in the overall play? The NBA is basically a one-on-one game,where as back in the day it was alot more of a team game.</div> Oh, your right, 100% mos def. but the NBA likes that one - one stuff it sells more jeresy & kicks. But it doesnt help the overall popularity of the game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh, your right, 100% mos def. but the NBA likes that one - one stuff it sells more jeresy & kicks. But it doesnt help the overall popularity of the game.</div> True dat. But who do we attribute the fall of the overrall game as a whole? Is it the coaches,owners or players? Personally I dont think we can attribute it to the coaches because we all know the coaches like a well rounded team game(ie Phil Jackson,Larry Brown & Lenny Wilkens). I think it's the owners and players as well as the League as a whole. Because it's all marketing like you said. The owners don't care that the quality of basketball is absolute crap as long as they have a star makin' them mad money and with the L pushin' individuals it's gonna stay like that. Let's face it,the League makes some of these cats think they the messiah.
People do not play basketball because they do not want to play, if they were true to the game, they would stop playing the videogame and play outside. Technology can not stop your desire to play basketball. Even the kids who do not stay indoors either go to the mall, movies, or go do drugs, or something dumb like that. Back then there was nintendo and genesis. IT ALL DEPENDS ON URE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT BACK BEFORE 97 (guessing) everyneighborhood was balling
