Phil Jackson: Lebron Doesn't Belong In The NBA

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">People really do get caught up with going to college being a "much do" to make you a much better player.Some kids look to their future as a professional basketball player knowing if they go to college their career could be damaged because of injury.Missing out on the big bucks as your value does down as the season goes on.If you feel you are ready and want to live your dream then jump to the NBA.Guys that go to college to play their ball aren't only there for basketball.To A lot of people going to college is very important.Getting an education to fall back on means so much for those players and their familes.</div>

I agree allnet, but this is such a controversial thing. It's hard to picture a right or wrong as we never knew these people. Take KG for example, he was doing poorly, financially and this helped boost him up to who he is today. It's not that you or I are making judgements, I myself think that school is really important and that it should be finished. But that's just me, we don't really know what some of these people are like, what they've been through and what they think, so I can't really have an opinion. I really admire Dr. J for finishing college during his career and the fact that Bosh will too.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Magic Johnson:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah experience is always good, but look at what he's doing. He's something special....maybe PJ is just ailed that Kobe isn't productive as of late, for obvious reasons of course. PJ's opinion will probably change over time for there's no denying that LBJ is gonna be big. I just feel somewhat sad seeing him speak ill of him like that.</div>

C'mon folks, you all know how Phil Jackson likes to get into opponents heads. Last season, prior to Jordan's last appearance in Los Angeles, he made comments about Jordan's physical health; calling into doubt MJ's ability to play well. He's done the same with regard to speaking about the Trailblazers and Kings; it (taking others off their game) could be something he picked from reading Sun Tzu or some other Asian wisdom.

In any case, Lebron's level of maturity, or lack of thereof, is Paul Silas' problem, not Phil Jackson's. I'd be surprised if Phil gave a damn whether Lebron entered the league at 18 or 28, it's all about creating insecurity in the mind of the opposition.

 

I think the players coming out of high school to play in the NBA should think for themselves if they're ready for the NBA. If they think that they are then we should just trust their judgement. It doesn't matter if Phil Jackson or somebody else thinks that LeBron doesn't belong in the NBA as long as LeBron feels that he does. Phil Jackson should focus on his own team, rather than speaking on who belongs in the NBA and who doesn't. And he really shouldn't be talking, with Kobe Bryant on his team who didn't finish college either

 

I think that the NBA should be given a list of all the high schoolers that want to go pro and analyze them head to toe on the court once they do this the coaches should vote on who should come out and stay. But in LeBrons case how can you say he wasnt ready to go?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">People really do get caught up with going to college being a "much do" to make you a much better player.Some kids look to their future as a professional basketball player knowing if they go to college their career could be damaged because of injury.Missing out on the big bucks as your value does down as the season goes on.If you feel you are ready and want to live your dream then jump to the NBA.Guys that go to college to play their ball aren't only there for basketball.To A lot of people going to college is very important.Getting an education to fall back on means so much for those players and their familes.</div>


Well the fact still remains that some kids are better off to college. Some are still too raw but yet their agents made them believe that they're ready for the big league. There are some players who will need college experience and there are some that don't. But as I've said, there's no doubt that LJ is ready.

College education here in our country is very important. If you want to succeed (in pro basketball or not), you have to go to college.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting InNETSweTrust:</div><div class="quote_post">Well the fact still remains that some kids are better off to college.</div>

How can you back that up? What ground do you have? I have heard many say that but have nothing to back up what they say.

 

They already named the high school players who jumped to the NBA and didn't do well. Scroll up.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting InNETSweTrust:</div><div class="quote_post">They already named the high school players who jumped to the NBA and didn't do well. Scroll up.</div>

The success rate is higher than college kids though.

This is all just personal opinion, but I still believe that the NBA is a normal job, if you are 18, you are free to work if the team is willing to hire you.

I don't see what the big problem is.

 

^ Yup I know. If you have it (as I've said like LJ) then go for it. But still, you have to personally know if you're ready for the NBA coz there are some kids who's better off with a degree. If you're still raw or you're nothing but a tall guy who can dunk on anyone, then go to college and learn the fundamentals needed. You must know this before you jump into the league or else you'll be too old (or too battered) to even think about getting a degree.

Plus, fame can do all sorts of bad things if you're not emotionally ready.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting sactown_dyme:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the players coming out of high school to play in the NBA should think for themselves if they're ready for the NBA. If they think that they are then we should just trust their judgement. It doesn't matter if Phil Jackson or somebody else thinks that LeBron doesn't belong in the NBA as long LeBron feels that he does. Phil Jackson should focus on his own team, rather than speaking on who belongs in the NBA and who doesn't. And he really shouldn't be talking, with Kobe Bryant on his team who didn't finish college either</div>

Finally someone talking on an optimistic note. I really admire this post of yours sactown, very softly and nicely spoken. This is true and always will be, I know it's cliche but it's true. Who cares what people think when the fact that matters is that the only opinion that should matter is those of your own, those you love and those who you trust are knowledgeable and unbias on your behalf. PJ doesn't even know LeBron.

 

Trust, college does not guarantee anything, you can shoot (Langdon) or be a great looking star (John Wallace) and have it not mean anything. I can sit here and list players all day long, it would be endless.

Overrated.

 

^ I'm talking about life in general KJ, not just basketball.

 

If Phil Jackson says LeBron James don't belong in NBA, what the hell are Phil Jackson doing there then?

 

I think he is just jealous Bron isn't on his team LOL!!!!

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting InNETSweTrust:</div><div class="quote_post">^ I'm talking about life in general KJ, not just basketball.</div>

Well like I said too, school is not for everybody, to most of these kids basketball id their life, and to a shock to many people many of the players don't even know the history of the NBA very well.

All they want to do, is play basketball (get rich and laid)

 

It's either you have skills or you don't. When you think of the pros and cons of going into the NBA out of high school, the pros block out the cons. I mean, think about if you were 18 years old, and you had the choice of going into the NBA and being paid millions for doing something you love to do, or going to college. Like KJ said, college doesn't guarantee anything.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting sactown_dyme:</div><div class="quote_post">It's either you have skills or you don't. When you think of the pros and cons of going into the NBA out of high school, the pros block out the cons. I mean, think about if you were 18 years old, and you had the choice of going into the NBA and being paid millions for doing something you love to do, or going to college. Like KJ said, college doesn't guarantee anything.</div>

I'd say that you guys are comparing apples and oranges. Granted, you have a lot more opportunity coming out after HS instead of hitting college, but that's all relative. You guys are flocking around Lebron, Kobe, Tracy and KG. No one else is as successful, and I'd say that as a general rule of thumb, go to college. Unless you are a guy who can dominate straight out of high school(read: Lebron), you should go to school. Even guys like Kobe and Tracy are showing that they lack a certain amount of maturity that they would have picked up in school. Rarely do you have guys who stayed 4 years having these problems.

With Lebron, it was entirely another matter, and you have to treat him as an exception, rather than the rule. People seem to be doing the opposite, and that's not right.