Do you agree with this (playoff related)

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  1. BenWallace3

    BenWallace3 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Do you agree that there cannot be a number 1 seed and a number 2 seed in the same divison? I mean Pistons and Pacers are going to take it down to the wire for the Central Division crown, and New Orleans will be up there too, but I think it's comin down to Detroit and Indiana. They are going to be the 2 best teams in the East, and have a much better record then the Atlantic winner, but one of them is going to be wrongfully placed at 3, and New Orleans probably at 4, when all 3 teams are 10x better then any Atlantic Division team. I can see the arguement for it, that you won your division, but I think it should just guarenttee you a playoff spot, not a 2nd seed.
     
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    It doesn't really matter. If you are the best team, you should be able to win either if you are the #2 or #3 seed.

    I wouldn't say New Orleans is 10x better than the Nets when they play well, especially if the Hornets are without Mashburn but I understand your point. Of course, the Pistons are better than the Nets, no argument there.

    I don't know about the idea, say that they are not guaranteed a lock for one of the top two seeds. What if one of the divisions has 8 teams with better records than the Atlantic division, is that team knocked out of the playoffs? This is how the playoff system works, so just leave it. If you are the best, you should not be affected by a seed number. (It is still better than say 3 teams in a NFL division go 1-15 and the other goes 2-14. The 2-14 team makes the playoffs. That would actually be funny to see.)
     
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    I had a big rant in another playoff post... I find it to be fine, that's part of the reason of why divisions exist, however I think with the Bobcats coming in, the amount of games played against each team should be changed. Each team should play in-division teams 5 times, in-conference (but not in-division) teams 3 times, and non-conference teams twice... that makes 80 games, and I'm for shortening the season anyway.

    I think the playoffs are fine, the only way I'd tweek them is to cut the teams down to 6 or 4... I'd either do an NFL playoff system or MLB playoff system. I think 8 teams per conference is way too many... more than HALF the teams make the playoffs!! If they do keep it at 8 teams, then they should revert back to the 1st round having 5 games... it allows for more upsets, and doesn't drag on boring blow-out series.
     
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    Its much more exciting to have two teams race for the division lead before the playoffs, whether or not they get it usually doesnt matter because the 3rd seed aint that bad at all
     
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    I hate that rule. Say you fall short of winning the division, but your a hell of a lot better than the other team leading the other division, and they get placed ahead of you. I think that rule is BS, record is what gets you into the playoffs, and it should be put that way in order.
     
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    In my opinion it doest matter whether you get 2nd or 3rd seed, because if you are a good enough team you should be able to win no matter what the circumstances
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting P_Stojakovic16:</div><div class="quote_post">In my opinion it doest matter whether you get 2nd or 3rd seed, because if you are a good enough team you should be able to win no matter what the circumstances</div>

    Well if you make the playoffs your obviously a "good" team. Yes, you should be able to win no matter what the circumstances are, but home court advantage makes a huge difference in playoffs, definetley something you fight for.
     
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    I disagree with this rule. It puts good divisions at a disadvantage, like we're seeing this year. Let's say that all the teams in one division have better records than the teams in another division. I think that was the case in the Central and Atlantic, respectively, earlier this season. If the playoffs had started then, someone from the Central Division who had a better record than the person from the Atlantic Division would have been left out of the playoffs, while the team from the AD would get the 2nd seed.

    However, no matter what we say, the playoffs are not going to be restructured. The NBA has proven that they won't change the structure for even the most important problems, like the disparity between East and West.
     
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    I never really thought about that, I did think some things were lobsided and bias yes, but I always thought those who went to the playoffs were deserving of that spot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Magic Johnson:</div><div class="quote_post">I never really thought about that, I did think some things were lobsided and bias yes, but I always thought those who went to the playoffs were deserving of that spot.</div>

    I never really realized it, it was never something I thought of, until I noticed this in my NBA Live game a while ago. :mrgreen: I agree with kobeonfire. That's the line I was looking for, 'It puts the good divisions at a disadvantage'. It looks like that could be the case this year with the East, it looked bad at the begenning of the year noticing how the Central Division of the East dominated, and the Atlantic division was struggling to even be at .500, but it seems to be evening up a little bit. Still, I feel Detroit and New Orleans will finish up with a better record than anyone in the Atlantic.
     

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