EVERYONE IS TRADABLE EXCEPT: Kirk Hinrich Jerome Williams Tyson Chandler (who knows about him too!) Forget Jamal "I am the team and don't listen to anyone" Crawford and forget Eddy Curry who obviously need a brain transplant because he too doesn't listen to anyone nor does he listen to what his body can do. forget it, this is over. I'm sick of losing teams in Chicago, and I'm sick of waiting for the Bulls. Scott Skiles has shown us that Crawford can't play and neither can Eddy Curry. Skiles is consistent with his coaching and just someone we need to help rebuild this team. What would I take??? I dunno, I hear offers for Antonio Davis for Antwan Jamieson. I'd take that. I'd like to get a shooting guard I'd take Alan Houston, Kurt Thomas, shanndon Anderson and Frank Williams for Marcus Fize, Eddy Curry, jamal crawford, Eddie Robinson and who ever else they want. But IsiahThomas won't do that he only wants to give up shanndon anderson and frank williams for jamal and eddie. But that's crazy. let's be realistic, Curry is no longer untouchable. And this teams needs help. We need to get rid of Antonio Davis as fast as possible because who knows how much longer he has left. He seems good but you need to think in the future, 1-2 years. The bulls should have been in the playoffs this year. It's time to stop thinking like we can still make it and start making some moves and getting rid of ALL of Krauses players Look at what paxson has brought us: Kirk Hirich - GREAT awesome, great defender, quick, fearless. I'd put him next to Lebron James in rookie of the year, if not even higher. So what, Lebron has nice numbers, he doesn't know the game like Kirk though. Jerome Williams - tough wants to play Antonio Davis - same as jerome Chris jeffferies - throw away, cap player. doesnt count Ronald Dupre - wants to play! Scottie Pippen - well I don't get this, and I never wanted him in the first place. His career = over. Kendall Gill - good solid backup but asked to do too much. Krause: Jamal Crawford - doesnt work hard enough, lacks too much. Shoots too much, doesnt use his talents at all. never drives to the lane averages 2 free throws a game. Let him try free agency. Take a look at Corry Maggette and ask him how that went. Eddy Curry - fine, maybe his still a project - look at Jermanie O'neal. But look at Curry, he can't hold on to the ball, he falls down every time he gets it. He struggles to get the ball up to the basket and he doesn't play strong enough, nor does he rebound good enough. Some plays make him look flashy, but forget that and look at his whole game Eddie Robinson - "I believe I can fly" SO WHAT he can jump. Nothing else, end of story. Marus Fizer - hahahahahahaha. What a joke, can't dribble, doesn't want to pass, EVER. Thinks he can play. In his own world. yeah i can analyze the bulls forever. Point is: time to shake things up
Great article, thanks for sharing. I don't know how you can knock Crawford though, he's like Wade, a great shooter who tries very hard but can't seem to get it on defense. I've never actually seen Hinrich play but isn't that being unfair to LeBron saying that he doesn't know basketball as well. Curry is one of the reasons you're still in the game. He provides you with some strengh and girth, give the guy some props, it's hard to support a team when so much pressure is on due to the alright team chemistry. I know he's injured but you never even mentioned Chandler.
I like Jamal Crawford, but he's quite egoistic, so not much teampalyer in that guy! Why don't he take a trip to another team?
The Bulls are all ready rebuilding. Just because they lost 2 games in a row doesnt mean that they should trade some of there players who have potential.
I agree with the trade Crawford idea. Players with his mentality usually do not really help teams unil they have been in the league for 6-7 years. Might as well put Curry on the block as well. He is not making much progress in Chicago and his trade value will not stay high forever. I'm not saying he needs to go, but at least see what other teams are willing to give first. Given how young and talented the bulls are and given that they added a couple of chemistry and defense guys in Davis and Williams but are still no better than last year (they are on pace to finish with a notably poorer record than last years 30-52 mark) it is time for a change.
Personally I'd keep Jamal and Eddy. Jamal just shifted to SG. He was playing PG. Give him time coz he's young. Eddy? We all know what he can do as shown during the second half of last season. Just imagine him and Tyson in your frontline. Just get a stud SF and you're all set.
^ I agree for the most part. I don't see any ergency at all to get rid of either Jamal Crawford or Eddy Curry.
Crawford has got enough time. Paxson and Skiles are not looking for a player like crawford, his work ethic is not hard enough at all to please them and he does not play any defense. He was told to drive to the lane instead of taking erractic shots by hundreds of people and still does the same. Curry is an underachiver to say the least. Though he is big and there are few big guys, Curry has yet to take advantage of the weak centers in the East.
I would still keep Crawford, now he changed the role to SG... lets see some more games. Curry should stay, the one that should go is Antonio Davis asap, with his departure Jerome, Curry & Chandler would gain more minutes. It sounds very good if Bulls can get Jamison for Davis (maybe invlovin some other players there). Other player that id like goin away is Edde Robinson, I wonder who wants him, and who would we get for him ??!!! and Fizer also... Heinrich Crawford Jamison Jerome / Chandler Curry this would look good, and also keepin Dupree.
BBall Guru? Maybe you should change that name to BBall PU Crawford is still very young and has missed much of his career to injury. He is an impact player, a game changer. Getting rid of him will haunt this franchise because he is a future all star, book it. Besides, have you not gave up enough already? Brad Miller, Ron Artest, Jalen Rose, believe I am forgetting another stud too. I love Hinrich's game and have been giving him pub all year, but no way is he next to, or even above James in terms of anything. Let's remember that Hinrich has much more experience than James too. That is just ridiculous. Hinrich and Ford will battle to try and become 1st team all rookies. They won't land it however if Wade has a healthy 2nd half, because he will be there with James and Anthony, while big guys fill out the rest of that team. The Bulls were getting mad talk from their fans before the season started and I even saw a few call them title contenders, haha. You still have youth and potential, I would not complain about that if I was a Bulls fan. This team is far too young to win consistently, before trade, after trade, it does not matter. Be patient Bulls fans, you have a lot of talent, stop putting these unrealistic expectations on them, it's not fair to a young team. Besides, you could always be the Hawks.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">BBall Guru? Maybe you should change that name to BBall PU Crawford is still very young and has missed much of his career to injury. He is an impact player, a game changer. Getting rid of him will haunt this franchise because he is a future all star, book it. </div> lol you can't be serious can you? The man doesn't listen to anyone and never has, he has had enough time to prove himself and he still does the same things cosntantly, there has not been any change in his game. Getting rid of him will not haunt our franchise, thats just the dumbest thing i've ever heard. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Besides, have you not gave up enough already? Brad Miller, Ron Artest, Jalen Rose, believe I am forgetting another stud too. </div> jalen rose a stud? lol okay buddy! James is better then Hinrich. Maybe, in numbers. Look at Kirks all around game. he has a better game the james. He plays defense too, which is a novel concept in the nba these days. again, I'm going to say this, Curry and Crawford are not players that fit into Paxson/Skiles idea of a team. They are not hard working and do not play defense. Kirk, jermoe williams, antonio davis are the type of players these guys are looking for. They want a rough team that will go in there and give any team hell. Jamal and Eddy are too soft and I predict Jamal won't be on this team feb 20 <font color="Red">Please use that handy edit feature - KJ</font>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BBall Guru:</div><div class="quote_post"> James is better then Hinrich. Maybe, in numbers. Look at Kirks all around game. he has a better game the james. He plays defense too, which is a novel concept in the nba these days.</div> You mention all-round game? Are you forgetting Lebron is averaging 20,6 and 6? He is the best all-rounded rookie we have seen in quite a while.
lol Hinrich is also grabbing 1.08 steals a game while James is at 1.55, also has a higher FG%, FT%, blocks, and 7 more minutes a game (better stamina) Why am I even doing this? 11, 3, and 6 compared to 20, 6, and 6 Ok "buddy"
I think someone has bulls bias disease. There is no way Hinrich is a more complete player than Lebron.....thats not the smartest thing to ever say.....its like comparing Kevin Johnson to Magic Johnson(not like I'm sayin lebron is magic...just a comparison.) Hinrich will be a good player, maybe even an allstar one day...but in no way is he ever going to compare to Lebron.....ever Trading away Jamal could be disastrous for the bulls but watching him play doesn't lead me to believe that he is a total team player and thats not a good trait for a star player. The reason the bulls drafted and traded for all of this talent was the belief that they could wait for them to develope, I think they all need another year and another coach to push them over the hump so trading them away may be jumping the gun too soon. They have playoff calibre talent and they need time to put it all together. This is their rebuilding period.....how do you rebuild a team thats already rebuilding.
Besides, it's not as if the players are the only problem. Jamal, Eddy and Tyson are all having difficulties developing. If you ask me, they better check their development strategies because three talented players who's not showing their full potential shows that there's something wrong with the program.
Bron may never be a Magic (hell, put Jabbar, Worthy, Scott, and Cooper around him and they win rings too), but Hinrich will darn sure never be a Kevin Johnson, that is very unfair to Kirk and not giving the right respect to KJ, he was a big time baller. These cats are WAY too you to be expecting winning seasons and playoffs right now, this is being rushed way too fast.
I am a huge Hinrich fan and even I know he is no where near the level of Lebron James. But at least that comment brought some new faces to the Bulls forum.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Bron may never be a Magic (hell, put Jabbar, Worthy, Scott, and Cooper around him and they win rings too), but Hinrich will darn sure never be a Kevin Johnson, that is very unfair to Kirk and not giving the right respect to KJ, he was a big time baller. </div> I wasn't saying that KJ wasn't a bigtime baller. I was just comparing the Level of talent. But I would never say KJ is not a or was not a star player in his day, I just think Hinrich may have the same kind of career and talent as him compared to Magic's talent and career. This was in no way a diss to KJ or Kirk because they are(were) both fine players
KJ was a slashing dunking little man that got into the paint at will, was an all star, one of the very elite point guards in the game, that is not the game of Hinrich. We would never see Kirk cross someone over and then dunk onYao Ming as KJ would (like when he did that to Olajuwon)