Will there be a team as good/better than the 1995-96 Bulls?

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  1. Ming637

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    i thought if there was gonna be a discussion which team will be the next 72-73 sixers, I thought we should have one on this. I thought when the Lakers signed Gary Payton and Karl Malone, they would be the next 95-96 Bulls. I was wrong, injuries was the problem for the Lakers.
     
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    72-8? Heh, almost the exact opposite of those Sixers. I doubt there will ever be a team so good, ever. I was sure it wouldn't be those Lakers, either. I never predicted those injury problems, but their lack of a great depth to their bench would plague them later.
     
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    Well,I think that there very well could be a team to surpass that. It would be hard and monumental,but you get a team like the Lakers that spend the cash on talent and combine that with the watered down version of the NBA we have now,and you very well could have a 73-8 team.
     
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    I don't think their will ever be as good as team as the 95-96 Bulls. That was unbelievable, and I don't see a team in this league right now who could even acquire the talent to put up that kind of record. Regardless of injuries for the Lakers, they still wouldn't have been able to surpass that.
     
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    I doubt it...I think talent wise, the Lakers of this season-Malone, Payton, Kobe, Shaq-are undoubtedly better...its just unfortunate injuries have played such a huge role...But no team will be as good as that 95-96 Bulls' squad...no one will ever have Jordan's pride and competitive desire to be the best...
     
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    There's 82 games in a season, so 73-8 wouldn't be possible.

    I dunno, I think it's a record that's safe for quite a while
     
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    In this era It would basically be impossible yes,the talent level from every team has improved every season.New talent is making It's way into the league,the top free-agents after signing with quailty teams or will be soon.Big trades keep happening by improving the elite teams.Kings,Wolves and Lakers all improved their roster by adding in much needed talent to their already soild base of players.The league is just too tough for such a record to happen.As the years go on you will see the skill level rise,just like you won't ever see a players score 100 points in a game again,you won't see a team completely dominate the regular season like teams have done in the past.

    This years Laker team even If heathly would still have no chance at winning 70 games.Only complete homers would even suggest It being possible.
     
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    for the record,I never said this years Lakers. I used the organization as an example because they want to win and spend the money thats necessary to win.
     
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    Now that I think about this, I don't think either All Star team, being assembled for a season, would do that well.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">In this era It would basically be impossible yes,the talent level from every team has improved every season.New talent is making It's way into the league,the top free-agents after signing with quailty teams or will be soon.Big trades keep happening by improving the elite teams.Kings,Wolves and Lakers all improved their roster by adding in much needed talent to their already soild base of players.The league is just too tough for such a record to happen.As the years go on you will see the skill level rise,just like you won't ever see a players score 100 points in a game again,you won't see a team completely dominate the regular season like teams have done in the past.

    This years Laker team even If heathly would still have no chance at winning 70 games.Only complete homers would even suggest It being possible.</div>

    if ur reffering to my post, I said TALENT-WISE, regarding this years Lakers squad...they do have a better team in terms of talent than the 95-96 Bulls...
     
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    Here's how its going to happen AND its going to happen next year (if everybody does what I say [​IMG])...

    Any team from the East should make some big moves between now and next season (like the Nets - thats your que Ratner and Jay-Z) and build a 2-year only super team. Do just like the Marlins or Yankees in baseball - buy a championship. But, on the way, get an unbeatable squad w/ a deep bench.

    Wait - isn't that what the Lakers tried to do (minus the bench piece)?

    Scratch that idea.
     
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    yeah, that's funny, because both times the marlins won the world series, they made it to the playoffs as the wild card -didn't win that many games in the regular season. the first time, when they "bought a championship" and the second time, when they just overachieved, was nearly identical. the yankees "superteams" get beaten too. so putting together a team of superstars, especially veterans, for a run guarantees nothing, look at the bad luck the lakers are having.

    what happened with the bulls was a combination of factors pretty impossible to reproduce. they were the best team that year, hands down. you had a superstar that was undercompensated and a lot of talented role players. teams are pretty competitive this year, and will be for a while.
     
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    It depends on how you define "better." Record wise, I think the 72 wins will stand for a long time...no one will have a "better" record...but that doesn't neccearily mean no one will be "better." I'm not even too sure if that Bulls team was the best of all-time...
     
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    This team was amazing, but I mean come on, they had Jordan. He like made everyone play better. They were one of the more inhuman teams. They were entertaining and good at the same time. As for if people can be better, always room for improvemenet and a chance at breaking records. The record may be out of reach but some teams may surpass the actual efficiency. I believe the Kings are an example of a team that may come close someday, they have great players, some are veterans and they are one of the teams with the best chemistry. Tough call but it seems very unlikely, virtually any Bulls teams with Jordan were good either way.
     
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    The record doesn't mean that they're the best team ever. Personally, I think that the present Lakers (with 100% health) can beat the bulls 9/10 times. Plus, the east was weak then also, and those 10 losses were probably against stronger west teams. Somebody said that nobody would have the pride and desire like Michael...Well there are tons of generations to go through, and different players, and different players will come in and out. Kobe Bryant has the same competitive fire, and the desire to win just like MJ, when I saw those tears last season, I could see it in his eyes, that he really wants to win. Yes, it can be broken, not this season. The reason teams can not do it, is because of injuries, trades, and other problems.
     
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    The East was weak then? You have to be kidding me. The only true Western powerhouse was the Houston Rockets, with Hakeem and crew. The Spurs were strong, too, but not the season these Bulls were there. Only 20 wins that season.

    The East dominated the entire NBA in the Jordan era. There's no way that today's Lakers could be the 95-96 Bulls. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc, BJ Armsrong, Steve Kerr, McCallough (sp) and the rest of the crew were all super talented - they were the perfect team, as they all clicked together, and with their depth, they could play their bench and still beat people. And, of course, that's very unlike some LA team of today... *cough*
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Crossover:</div><div class="quote_post">

    There's no way that today's Lakers could be the 95-96 Bulls. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc, BJ Armsrong, Steve Kerr, McCallough (sp) and the rest of the crew were all super talented - </div>

    Who's McCallough? And BJ Armstrong wasn't on that squad either...

    Personally, I think the early Celtics were the greatest team ever...they dominated their era like no other....but its really unfair to compare teams from different years and eras
     
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    No team is gonna match that squad from 96. I mean, that team had the best player ever, and assembled around him a perfect group of supporting players. How can you do that today?

    I know that the Jordan of those years was getting up in years, but despite that fact, he was still better than either Kobe or TMac today, and that is a fact. I would have bet money that the Shaq/Kobe/Gary/Karl team didn't break the record, and I'm already right. Its because you need a guy who is the obvious leader, and guys around him who don't question their roles. Karl and Gary, never known for their killer instinct when it comes to winning, have probably matured enough to accept support roles, but Kobe isn't mature enough for that.

    If you're debatijng the best team ever, the Bulls often get the short end of the stick because they didn't have as many players who were recognized as stars. Not that they didn't have them: Rodman was the most unstoppable rebounding force during those days, and Toni Kukoc was easily the best 6th man for 3 straight years.

    When you compare other great teams, there are invariably players who are overrated because of the status of that team. Kevin McHale, for example, was a great player, but there is no way that he was better than Scottie Pippen, which people often try to argue.

    In the end, that team was just so hard to reach that it seems impossible to reach them. And it will continue to be impossible as long as teams try to assemble rosters full of superstars, since chemistry is so often overlooked. The teams I see as likely to break the record are ones like the Sacramento Kings, and even then, they need a bigger star than Chris Webber or Peja in order to turn some losses into wins.
     

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