<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">You are the one being naive, this is a message board. You don't know much about law do you? There are many occasions in which lawyers "seek to destroy their opponent". I am not basing this on tv, go and sit in on some cases before you open your mouth again. I find it amusing that you assume every case is determined by a judge. The reason that our constitutional right for a JURY is so highly emphasized is because it is a better scenario for a defendant. If one lawyer completely annihilates another, the JURY will choose a verdict for the lawyer that won. Please explain to me why I should have tried to compromise with anyone in this debate. That is not what a message board is about.</div> My wife has a law degree from Georgetown, how do you like that? She has been practicing for 12 years. She also teaches law. I used to own a business creating courtroom graphics. I've been in more court cases that you have been in detention for being a smart mouth. So get down your high horse, because by now you should realize you look like a fool to most people reading this thread. Do you even know how many cases don't go to a jury? Do you realize how influential a judge is in jury cases? Naive upon naive, have you even seen a jury? Twelve people who don't want to be there and hate the lawyer who drags proceedings even more than the judge? I don't give a flying fart about why you'd want to compromise on the boards. I told you that in response to your "i can't wait to be a lawyer" idiocy and not even as advice, just to show you what an idiot you are throwing around concepts you don't even understand. Life, or some senior partner, will teach you that pretty quickly.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big Nasty:</div><div class="quote_post">For real playa,not to hound the age thing..but there is one important lesson you need to learn in this life and that is never judge another person until you walk a mile in their shoes...that's one of the big ones so you better pay attention..you seem kinda behind in the lessons learned in life catergory. If you are such a grand person that can judge the type of person someone is by just conversatin' over the net,well more power to ya....you better than me. So what I smoke weed? I don't do it anywhere near my daughter nor do I do it all the time..me and my boys chill,watch a game or two and pass a J...no big deal..but hey if that alone can tell you so much then you my friend are in for a shock. More people smoke weed than you'll ever know..and no,oh world wise one,it's not just '14 year olds'.....I think you need to seriously step out into the world and have a long look around and experience a little bit of life before you start makin' snap judgements about a person's character based only on smokin' weed....</div> personally, i have no problem with people who smoke weed. i'd never do it myself but i have lots of friends who do and i only see problems with those who do it chronically. if you did it near your daughter, i'd lose respect for you, but it sounds to me that you just do it once in a while and your daughter's never around so i don't see a problem with it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big Nasty:</div><div class="quote_post">For real playa,not to hound the age thing..but there is one important lesson you need to learn in this life and that is never judge another person until you walk a mile in their shoes...that's one of the big ones so you better pay attention..you seem kinda behind in the lessons learned in life catergory. If you are such a grand person that can judge the type of person someone is by just conversatin' over the net,well more power to ya....you better than me. So what I smoke weed? I don't do it anywhere near my daughter nor do I do it all the time..me and my boys chill,watch a game or two and pass a J...no big deal..but hey if that alone can tell you so much then you my friend are in for a shock. More people smoke weed than you'll ever know..and no,oh world wise one,it's not just '14 year olds'.....I think you need to seriously step out into the world and have a long look around and experience a little bit of life before you start makin' snap judgements about a person's character based only on smokin' weed....</div> Ummm, I think that you need to stop trying to be condescending, because it isn't working. I strongly doubt that there is any lesson in life that YOU could teach me, and I am an adult, so stop trying to treat me otherwise. Each and every person on this board judges people without knowing their whole background. Ever voted for president? I am completely aware of how the huge number of people who smoke weed. Are you aware of how many people steal, lie, evade taxes, and cheat in general? Does that make it okay? I was avoiding saying this, because it is personal, but maybe it can make you understand. My cousin was once arrested for selling weed. He spent months in jail, and most likely underwent all of the horrors (you know what I'm talking about) that take place there. His wife was pregnant with twins, and he missed their birth. His mother (my aunt) had died about a week before his arrest, and his sister (also my cousin) had been married about 5 days before his arrest. This was one of the most hectic weeks of my life, and his dealing only made it worse. I don't hate weed in particular, just drugs in general, and the pain that they cause families. Don't take this personally, but maybe now you see why I am so strongly against this. That's all I have to say.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting cubanballer:</div><div class="quote_post">My wife has a law degree from Georgetown, how do you like that? She has been practicing for 12 years. She also teaches law. I used to own a business creating courtroom graphics. .</div> Your wife sounds like a smart lady, good for HER. Courtroom graphics huh? How relevant. You are obviously unaware of just how much time I have spent reading and observing court cases, and much more.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Ummm, I think that you need to stop trying to be condescending, because it isn't working. I strongly doubt that there is any lesson in life that YOU could teach me, and I am an adult, so stop trying to treat me otherwise. Each and every person on this board judges people without knowing their whole background. Ever voted for president? I am completely aware of how the huge number of people who smoke weed. Are you aware of how many people steal, lie, evade taxes, and cheat in general? Does that make it okay? I was avoiding saying this, because it is personal, but maybe it can make you understand. My cousin was once arrested for selling weed. He spent months in jail, and most likely underwent all of the horrors (you know what I'm talking about) that take place there. His wife was pregnant with twins, and he missed their birth.</div> You need to take the advice you so freely give. Once again I am done with this thread...for good this time. It's fruitless now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big Nasty:</div><div class="quote_post">You need to take the advice you so freely give. </div> And you need to stop smoking weed, and defending those who do so. You have a daughter, grow up. I remember Sinbad once said that parent overemphasize the need to respect adults, because so many adults today do ish that takes away the respect that they would normally deserve. Apparently he was right.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Your wife sounds like a smart lady, good for HER. Courtroom graphics huh? How relevant. You are obviously unaware of just how much time I have spent reading and observing court cases, and much more.</div> lol, not much, that's evident. big nasty is right, you are behind in the life lessons category. i'm going to be 100% honest with you, having a bad experience should have teached you that people have failings and it's better to accept, support and try to find the good in them. instead it made you a pompous judgemental jackass.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting cubanballer:</div><div class="quote_post">lol, not much, that's evident. big nasty is right, you are behind in the life lessons category. i'm going to be 100% honest with you, having a bad experience should have teached you that people have failings and it's better to accept, support and try to find the good in them. instead it made you a pompous judgemental jackass.</div> With grammer like that you have no business talking about what I should or shouldn't have been taught.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">With grammer like that you have no business talking about what I should or shouldn't have been taught.</div> LMAO, is g-r-a-m-m-a-r.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting cubanballer:</div><div class="quote_post">LMAO, is g-r-a-m-m-a-r. </div> congrats, you teached me something.
This has been a great debate, let's not taint it with personal attacks. My 2 cents on the marijuana issue is somewhere in the middle. For the NBA I understand and support their efforts to ban substance abuse. The fact marijuana is illegal should be justification enough for them to not want it in the league. Comparing an NBA player to the average 9 to 5 worker isn't a valid point because an NBA player is under contract 24/7. Their work day does not end after a game, like the work day ends for most of us after we leave the office. Whether they realize it or not they are still bound to their contract and must abide by the league rules and contractual obligations. I view it similar to how some college campuses are "dry" and others allow alcohol on the premises. If the players have a problem with how the league wants to mandate and enforce the rules, then they should consider another employer. As for people who use marijuana, I don't have a problem with it or them. There is only a problem when a person abuses it or it impairs them from their responsibilities. I always viewed marijuana the same as I view alcohol usage. And I've always enjoyed this quote... "Why drink and drive, when you can smoke and fly?" The benefits of legalizing marijuana far outweigh the disadvantages of having it illegal. But that is another topic to debate.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">This has been a great debate, let's not taint it with personal attacks. </div> I agree... TB and Nasty were bringing up good points. As far as the NBA and marijuana, why would an NBA player want to use it in the first place. These guys are paid million of dollars to keep in tip top shape and play the game of basketball. If the players truley want to be the greatest... they know marijuana in no way is gunna help them. Do you think Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Ishiah Thomas, Jerry West every used marijuana during their playing prime? Of course not. As far as legalizing marijuana, I agree with shape. There are so many advantages to doing this. Goverment could place taxes on it is a great example (from a national point of view).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">As far as legalizing marijuana, I agree with shape. There are so many advantages to doing this. Goverment could place taxes on it is a great example (from a national point of view).</div> I agree fully. Besides, when things are legalized people are less likely to abuse them. Look at Germany, drinking is legal at a younger age, so by the time they are older they do so responsibly. For the record, I do like Nasty, and won't hold a grudge against anyone @ JBB. I am just very adamant in my beliefs, and I don't back down.
hmmm...havnt read all of this thread, but my opinion: the nba should worry about something worth worrying about. a player should only be NOT smoking ganj, if its hurting their game. marijuana is the most mis-understood "drug" especially in the states. it hardly qualifies as a drug, because after chronic use, its barely even mind-altering. there is NO direct link to marijuana use and lathargie. if someone is already a lathargic person, then chronic weed puffing, can make it worse, but there are PLENTY of productive people in society including doctors and business professionals who smoke marijuana and it doesnt get in the way of their daily life. so players smoke weed...big deal :rollseyes:
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post"> Each and every person on this board judges people without knowing their whole background. Ever voted for president?.</div> where did this idea of yours come from? it's you and only you who judges people around the forum. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post"> Don't take this personally, but maybe now you see why I am so strongly against this. That's all I have to say.</div> I believe the people here will not take your reason personally, YOU are the one that takes everything personally... we meant good to you, you responded bad to us, we gave you milk and you gave us mud in return... how shall we be amused? you may wanna say to me how the hell should I prove this... gotta be honest, i can't prove it but it's obvious man and everyone can see that you sort of hold grudges against your argument partners. It's like when you're angry and your face is all red, everyone can see that you're angry although you keep saying, "I'm fine" whenever your friend asks, "you alright?" Don't keep that hatred man, let it go, there's no use keeping it down for yourself, have some friends, share it with them, and have a laugh together about it in the end, it's beautiful. And I say this from the bottom of my heart, I don't give a fish's dropping about your personal issues, the advice I can give to you is jump over that dropping and get over it. p.s. Peace out saw your last post, you sound like you're reborn with angel heart, i'm happy for you.
Fishball, the fact that you would sit here and analyze my behavior is a judgement. Is that so hard to understand? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> p.s. Peace out saw your last post, you sound like you're reborn with angel heart, i'm happy for you. </div> Thanks for the sarcasm
yeah but believe me, it's no sarcasm, i'm truly happy that you're finally cool... correction: it's us and only us on this board that judge around, you judge people and I judge you, i'm the judge of a hell of a judge
people need to realize that often times, laws do not necessarily = ethics. ethics can be subjective. although growing weed is illegal, its an absolute FARCE that someone can get a jail sentance of only 5 yrs for attempting to kill someone, where growing weed, can land you life in jail. the u.s. "drug" laws are one of the most moronic displays of "justice" iv ever studied. non violent crimes such as marijuana growing for personal use, can land someone twice the jail time as going out into the street and bashing someone over the head with a baseball bat. i know im gonna take a lot of heat from the U.S. cru for saying this, but i honestly think that a lot of americans are brainwashed by their precious constitution. the government chooses to ignore certain constitutional rights when its convienient to them. lol, sorry i can go on about this forever, i did a whole essay on this last semester. back on topic...
I would just like to say this..I'm not talkin' down to anyone or tryin' to put anyone down...nor am I tryin' to judge anyone at all..I'm just trying to point out that not everything in life is as easy as black & white there are lots of gray areas and sometimes when you you're young it's hard to tell. Don't matter how smart ya are as a young cat,when you get older the world opens up and things make more sense,you experience more and you see more. I'm not saying anyones opinions are wrong but as you get older life teaches you more and you see things differently (most of the time anyway) and overall things become broader. It's easier for me to say these things to someone younger because I've been where they are and have lived those years while the flipside isn't the same. At anyrate,no disrespect meant to anyone by anything I said. Just speaking from experience.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Haha, please explain when I have ever said that their smoking weed was okay? Besides, who picks their favorite player/team based on that kind of stuff? Kobe still has just as many fans as he did before. Stop acting silly.</div> isnt this mainly what this topic was about in the first place...what difference does it make if they go home and light it up occasionally? as long as they arent going to a game or practice high or whatever....u guys are taking this thing way too far!!!
