poor rookies... every year bad-ass veterans seem hungry to bully them, I know some of the pranks are getting them to buy some doughnuts and carrying bags to the team bus, but do you guys think there is more?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Fishball:</div><div class="quote_post">poor rookies... every year bad-ass veterans seem hungry to bully them, I know some of the pranks are getting them to buy some doughnuts and carrying bags to the team bus, but do you guys think there is more?</div>oh hell yeah. I bet they do stuff they can't even say publicly
Its all fun tho, its not like they do somethin that causes them to mess up their game or life. It happens in every sport, its like a tradition. There are many things that aren't released to the public... But the next year they get to get revenge on the next rookie lol
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MVPlaya:</div><div class="quote_post">Its all fun tho, its not like they do somethin that causes them to mess up their game or life. It happens in every sport, its like a tradition. There are many things that aren't released to the public... But the next year they get to get revenge on the next rookie lol</div>oh yeah, it's like a big fraternity. It's all love!
I personally wouldnt like that....If one rokkie takes it the wrong way...It could stir up a bit of trouble within the team and also...It could lead to the rookie not excelling as he was supposed too....But unless you come into the league with a foot high Fro and look as big and as fierce as Ben Wallace then your getting bullied!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Joel-33:</div><div class="quote_post">I personally wouldnt like that....If one rokkie takes it the wrong way...It could stir up a bit of trouble within the team and also...It could lead to the rookie not excelling as he was supposed too....But unless you come into the league with a foot high Fro and look as big and as fierce as Ben Wallace then your getting bullied!</div>It's a way of life in the NBA, has been forever.
lol its aight though, i wouldnt think neone would take it personal. just look at it as funny. i wouldnt take it personal........dependin on what happens )
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Joel-33:</div><div class="quote_post">I personally wouldnt like that....If one rokkie takes it the wrong way...It could stir up a bit of trouble within the team and also...It could lead to the rookie not excelling as he was supposed too....</div> If you watch the NFL, then you know that describes Ryan Leaf's rookie year. They stole his credit card and charged a couple of thousand dollars on it for dinner... instead of taking it in fun (he had just recieved a $40+ million dollar contract), he got pissed off. He was never "accepted" as a teammate, stuggled on the field trying to do it alone, and is now considered one of the biggest bust in NFL history... Do you guys see what the Marines do??? Man, now that's crazy
some other prank that I know that went publicly was Bull Jay Williams, but it wasn't so bad... he was on the plane while playing for the worst-team-ever US coached by George Karl (he was the only rookie) and the players if I can still remember called him "chicken" or "baby", esp. Reggie he was hard on him but they were having fun together and Jay didn't seem to be offended or whatever...
If I were a rookie I'd do something crazy the first practice to let people know not to mess with me, but usually these pranks are just harmless and funny. I remember Shane Battier's first day as a Grizzlie. They were having a "Meet The Team" open-practice because it was the Grizzlies' first year in Memphis. All of the Grizzlies told Battier to run out onto the court holding up his finger as if to say, "We're #1." Unfortunately, they don't teach common sense at Duke, so Battier ran out on the court expecting his teammates to be seconds behind him; however, no one followed him. Battier ran out onto the court all alone and made a fool out of himself. It was public humiliation, but it was all in good fun.
I've never been one to enjoy any form of humiliation against players. It's why I seem to despise Streetball. As far as Rookies go, it seems innocent enough but it could really end up hurting their feelings and morale affecting how they would've played. If it kept going that is. Some of my personal favorite hates was the time J-Rich bounced the ball off of Boozer's hate. I absolutely hate things like that. It's why I'm very fond of players like Duncan.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Magic Johnson:</div><div class="quote_post">I've never been one to enjoy any form of humiliation against players. It's why I seem to despise Streetball. As far as Rookies go, it seems innocent enough but it could really end up hurting their feelings and morale affecting how they would've played. If it kept going that is. Some of my personal favorite hates was the time J-Rich bounced the ball off of Boozer's hate. I absolutely hate things like that. It's why I'm very fond of players like Duncan.</div> I respect your opinion, but I think these veterans do it to rookies just jokingly, as friends not only as teammates, to make them gel together better and make them a real part of the team. It's all fun, if someone getting bullied takes it too seriously or personally, where the prank was intended to be a "friendly joke" in the first place, then it'd be of course a different story. If a rookie knows how to defer to his vets and let them actually bully him, and actually have fun with it (like LeBron), the vets would actually respect him ultimately (LeBron is the unquestioned leader of that team).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">If I were a rookie I'd do something crazy the first practice to let people know not to mess with me, but usually these pranks are just harmless and funny. I remember Shane Battier's first day as a Grizzlie. They were having a "Meet The Team" open-practice because it was the Grizzlies' first year in Memphis. All of the Grizzlies told Battier to run out onto the court holding up his finger as if to say, "We're #1." Unfortunately, they don't teach common sense at Duke, so Battier ran out on the court expecting his teammates to be seconds behind him; however, no one followed him. Battier ran out onto the court all alone and made a fool out of himself. It was public humiliation, but it was all in good fun.</div> That's funny as hell...haha...good post Wave
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Magic Johnson:</div><div class="quote_post">I've never been one to enjoy any form of humiliation against players. It's why I seem to despise Streetball. As far as Rookies go, it seems innocent enough but it could really end up hurting their feelings and morale affecting how they would've played. If it kept going that is. Some of my personal favorite hates was the time J-Rich bounced the ball off of Boozer's hate. I absolutely hate things like that. It's why I'm very fond of players like Duncan.</div> I agree with you...I like the humble guys..The guys who can "Gel" with you....without embarrising you or making you feel rejected....Timmy has shown that..And i i take a guess so have ALL the spurs..Maybe thats why they are such a tight-humble team...They respect each other and make not ONE feel left out...thats why i route for them... :mrgreen: !!
Getting doughnuts and carrying bags and even public humiliation is nothing compared to the kind of hazing that goes on in the marines.. Pickin up a box of krispy kreme's is different than getting pins punched into your chest to prove that you are tough :thumbsdow
I watched an instance once in the Bulls locker room. Scottie was a rookie then and this big Bull (I forgot his name) was holding him by his jersey and pushing him around.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Magic Johnson:</div><div class="quote_post">I've never been one to enjoy any form of humiliation against players. It's why I seem to despise Streetball.</div>I hear you on that, I think they shouldn't allow things like throwing the ball off someone's head, that's bs. Has anyone ever come to blows because of that?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post"> I remember Shane Battier's first day as a Grizzlie. They were having a "Meet The Team" open-practice because it was the Grizzlies' first year in Memphis. All of the Grizzlies told Battier to run out onto the court holding up his finger as if to say, "We're #1." Unfortunately, they don't teach common sense at Duke, so Battier ran out on the court expecting his teammates to be seconds behind him; however, no one followed him. Battier ran out onto the court all alone and made a fool out of himself. It was public humiliation, but it was all in good fun.</div>I don't see how running onto the court holding up your index finger is humiliating
some pranks are jokes but some pranks are real hate... case when MJ came into the L as a rookie, basically the whole team just didn't accept him to be the Bulls' new leader (like Nugs accept Melo and Cavs with James as their leaders)... esp. Orlando Woolridge, who was basically the team's star before MJ arrived... MJ really deferred so much to this guy, scoring less than ever, passing the ball as soon as he got it, but the bulls kept on losing... and he couldn't take it no more and started doing his thing on the court, steals, dunks, reverse lay ups, basically being more aggressive than ever, and quickly becoming the first option on offense... the fans were beggining to be thrilled, but the jealous Bulls players were not, in fact they started confronting MJ in the locker (led by Woolridge), but Oakley stood up for mike and he basically fought Woolridge in the locker and won and shut the other rebellious Bulls players... after that incident, all Bulls (one by one) lined up and apologized to MJ and shook hands for their bad treatment, the only guy who didn't do this was again Woolridge but Mike came up to him and shook hands with him, since then they accepted Mike to be their new leader, and they became pretty tight as a team together... I got this story after reading an NBA comic illustration of Magic, MJ and Sir Charles's careers... the drawings are pretty solid... but they're all in japanese I had to get my sis translate everything...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Fishball:</div><div class="quote_post">some pranks are jokes but some pranks are real hate... case when MJ came into the L as a rookie, basically the whole team just didn't accept him to be the Bulls' new leader (like Nugs accept Melo and Cavs with James as their leaders)... esp. Orlando Woolridge, who was basically the team's star before MJ arrived... MJ really deferred so much to this guy, scoring less than ever, passing the ball as soon as he got it, but the bulls kept on losing... and he couldn't take it no more and started doing his thing on the court, steals, dunks, reverse lay ups, basically being more aggressive than ever, and quickly becoming the first option on offense... the fans were beggining to be thrilled, but the jealous Bulls players were not, in fact they started confronting MJ in the locker (led by Woolridge), but Oakley stood up for mike and he basically fought Woolridge in the locker and won and shut the other rebellious Bulls players... after that incident, all Bulls (one by one) lined up and apologized to MJ and shook hands for their bad treatment, the only guy who didn't do this was again Woolridge but Mike came up to him and shook hands with him, since then they accepted Mike to be their new leader, and they became pretty tight as a team together... I got this story after reading an NBA comic illustration of Magic, MJ and Sir Charles's careers... the drawings are pretty solid... but they're all in japanese I had to get my sis translate everything...</div> Classic Oakman. You can always expect him to maintain locker room peace.