James Not Selected As An All-Star

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  1. mike18946

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    Get out of here with that rubbish,Redd clearly deserved to make it.He has the numbers,led his team to a top 5 seed,great shooter and overall been the leader of that team.Lebron deserved to make it but not at the expense of Redd.
     
  2. jbbKing James

    jbbKing James JBB Banned Member

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    ^^The Bucks have not been that much greater than the Cavs since the Davis trade allnet, and James has been better than Redd without question.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">^^The Bucks have not been that much greater than the Cavs since the Davis trade allnet, and James has been better than Redd without question.</div>

    Bucks are a top 4 seed,I don't like to compare teams after certain trades.Fact is Redd has helped guide his team to 5 games above 500 with a roster everyone predicted to be bottom of the conference.Cavs have good talent around Lebron,an inside force with Boozer,soild PG,good role players,scorers in Wagner,two very good centers,Williams is a defensive warrior e.t.c

    I could go

    Fact is Redd deserved to make the team,Lebron did too but not at the expense of Redd.
     
  4. jbbKing James

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    Ha, so what about the Melo situation then? This is what this sounds like if you ask me, last I checked only one player could turn around a franchise by himself, and his name is Shaquille O'Neal. Why is it also that the script is flipped so much? I could have swore I heard you talking about the game is about stats one second, then wins the next. It should be a tad of both.

    James clearly has the stats, and since the Cavs have cleaned house (Davis/Miles) they have been winners.

    I won't knock Redd, but he has not made the impact that James has on games, nor has single handedly won the amount of games that James has in the 4th either.

    I understand that Redd is the peoples choice because he is everyone's "pocket cd" favorite now because he has a good story, but that mushy tale does not get it over Bron if you ask me.

    What is up with the Nets having 2 all-stars when they have been underachieving and "doggin it" all season long? There is no excuse for the Nets to not be a 1/2 seed as we speak.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">It will be well deserved if he makes it. I'm just glad he didn't get voted a starter.</div>




    Well, why? Yao Ming was a starter last year and this year and he stats are worse than LeBron James.
     
  6. Martin

    Martin Back from retirement

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    This was really surprising me that he didn't get voted [​IMG] Now,you have to hope that Artest hits someone with a broken bottle and gets suspended or someone else gets into trouble.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ming637:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, why? Yao Ming was a starter last year and this year and he stats are worse than LeBron James.</div>Good point, if Bron was from China he would have made it, lol. And as Shaq said.....well nevermind.

    Should Bron have made the team? Yes. Should Redd have made the team? Yes. Ultimately, who's stats are more impressive? Say Redd's and I will slap you.

    This is what we are forgetting, in the eyes of coaches, they ignore age. Redd may have better stats, but he is also more experienced. Coaches don't care that Bron is a rookie so they simply compared his stats with Redd's and ignored age. In fact I believe that they might have ignored him intentionally for that reason.
     
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    That's right TB, lot's of coaches know that James has a world of time and very well may start the next 10 all star games. Does that make it right? No. But you know that many vote like that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Ha, so what about the Melo situation then? This is what this sounds like if you ask me, last I checked only one player could turn around a franchise by himself, and his name is Shaquille O'Neal. Why is it also that the script is flipped so much? I could have swore I heard you talking about the game is about stats one second, then wins the next. It should be a tad of both.

    James clearly has the stats, and since the Cavs have cleaned house (Davis/Miles) they have been winners.

    I won't knock Redd, but he has not made the impact that James has on games, nor has single handedly won the amount of games that James has in the 4th either.
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    This is nothing like the Melo situation,he has proven stars around him.Redd has young talent around him,good shooters and a rookie point guard.The script is not being switched at all here.Redd has played a completely different role to Lebron all season,wasn't til recently Bron changed positions.Redd rebounds the ball well for his position,he is actually an underrated passer,soild on defense and a great shooter.

    Yes I said stats should be considered first then records,which is what the coaches did.Redd has very good stats and he is leading a winning team,he deserves to be there.Lebron does as well,even though the Cavs record isn't anywhere near as good he has the stats to be there.He should of been there instead of Baron Davis to be honest.Lebron has been the point guard every game til the JM trade.

    You will also be surprised how many times Redd has come through in the clutch late in games,he has been just as effective as Lebron has late in the 4th quarter.
     
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    If the coaches look at stats, then why in the world is Boozer not on the All-Star team. James, Z, and Boozer are all-star worthy.

    PS: Marc Stein said that Z was the most worthy Cav to even be considered



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    OMG that should make Bron real mad! He should prove to them that they should have picked him.
     
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    Z all star worthy?

    Our max paid player that is on the bench every 4th quarter, that sounds like an sll star to me.

    If the Cavs are over .500 next year, both James and Boozer make it.

    Funny how ESPN keeps putting it "Redd is an all star, but LeBron is not"

    That about sums it up for me [​IMG]
     
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    Cavs fans

    Check out this article from Marc Stein

    He sums this up well

    "The consolation? Guess that first-ever Friday night Rookie Game will mean something after all."
     
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    That is a little off, the league did move the game to Friday so that the 1st and 2nd year players could do both. So his point is no longer valid.

    Ric Bucher summed it up the best by saying that Stern just wanted to sell out the rookie game by having that as the only opportunity to see him.

    Money, money, money baby.

    LMAO allnet...

    Marc Stein said he is outraged that LeBron is not in the all star game and that he would have selected James over Pierce, and both of them over Magloire. He asked who the loser in all of this was, and said that it was the fans.

    I hear a Max Kellarman famous line coming soon..
     
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    Baron Davis over LeBron? I believe Baron is a MVP canidate. He should very well be in the game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr_Infante:</div><div class="quote_post">Baron Davis over LeBron? I believe Baron is a MVP canidate. He should very well be in the game.</div>

    Baron is the Antonie Walker part II

    (May sound harsh,but he has turned into a chucker)

    I hate those kind of players.

    Baron was an MVP canidate early in the season but the guy has fallen off.Has led his team well though,got the stats even though he shots way too many threes,poor %,bad shot selection but at the end of the day he is a guy you can market,very exciting to watch when he actually attacks the basket.Sadly he doesn't do that enough.
     
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    You can say anything you want, but IMO LeBron should be is All-Star Game. I can saying about him many times and i respect him and others players. With all respect for Michael Redd but i dont know what do hell is he doing in ASG. I know he is great 3pt Shooter, so he should go to the 3pt competition. Its big mistake for NBA League that LBJ wont play in ASG.
     
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    As shapecity said in another thread, I would not be shocked if a player or 2 get hurt and LeBron gets named to the roster sooner or later.

    Who knows.
     
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    This was a huge shock and you can tell by the replies. I think he should be in the All-Star Game and that he cares if he's in there or not. He's already proved himself America what do you have against this kid.
     
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    Amherstcavsfan, you think Z is all-star worthy? HAH, don't think so. Boozer got beaten out by K-Mart, simply because K-Mart is better. Well, in my opinion at least. I actually think the coaches made a good descision. Hell, I agree with AllNet, I think LeBron should've made it over Baron. Baron was blazing at the beginning of the season, but has cooled off as of late. As AllNet said, Baron is the Antoine Walker Part II.
     

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